I can't wait for Trump to get in and really make America better again!
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"Trump uses resources for reuniting immigrant children with their parents to instead reunite students with their debts."
Takes out loans in everyones name, even if they never went to college.
That's what they do every time they cut taxes for the wealthiest.
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"But but but, Biden's not doing anything!"
I mean, he's not. The vast majority of the loans being forgiven are ones that should have been forgiven anyways. Like ones where the people went into the public sector and paid their loans for 20+ years. These loans were supposed to be discharged. That was the arrangement these people signed up for. Bureaucracy essentially held them hostage.
Sorry, but I don't give credit for finally agreeing to a broken promise and then treating it like it was done out of the kindness of their hearts. They should have been discharged years ago.
Op posted:
The Biden administration has focused on revising and expanding federal student loan forgiveness programs that existed before Biden took office. That approach allowed the administration to expand loan forgiveness options despite its failure to implement new federal forgiveness programs after the Supreme Court struck-down Biden’s initial plan in 2023.
federal student loan forgiveness programs that existed before Biden took office
focused on revising and expanding
How? He's just forgiving the shit he was supposed to forgive. He's not revising and expanding with this new round of loan forgiveness.
So you're ignoring the news article. Ok.
From the article:
The 150,000 new beneficiaries announced Monday include more than 80,000 borrowers who were cheated or defrauded by their schools, over 60,000 borrowers with total and permanent disabilities and more than 6,000 public service workers, Biden said in the release.
These are all loans that were ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN under existing law.
So hilarious that people are just down voting you without providing any evidence of new student loan action on Biden's part. Libs will do anything to justify the status quo.
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He "focused" on fuck-all because this is not an expansion! No expansion happened. The claim that anything was expanded is a LIE.
The debt always supposed to have been forgiven under policy that has existed for more than a decade. Biden did his job and nothing else. It's only notable because his predecessor didn't.
How much clearer do we have to make it? Why are you liberal apologists acting like MAGAs?
The person you're arguing with treats lies as faits accomplis.
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He's leveled up. Now he's doing to little to late! Good job Grampa, hope you remember us as we all get to enjoy Trump.
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Out of 43 million. Drop in the bucket.
Hope the people who get it treasure it.
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this guy is a saint the way he keeps going despite the crap he gets for not doing more even knowing each bit of more is not enough for many folks.
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The 150,000 new beneficiaries announced Monday include more than 80,000 borrowers who were cheated or defrauded by their schools, over 60,000 borrowers with total and permanent disabilities, and more than 6,000 public service workers, Biden said in the release.
So it was all thru existing programs and Biden did nothing to make it happen?
Well, when he actually tried the courts struck it down :/
A half hearted effort doesn't mean we should applaud him for things that would have happened regardless of who is President.
When these numbers keep going, are you going to talk about how great trump is? Or will you magically agree with me because the president changed?
Cuz buddy, it won't take long until these exact numbers continue under trump.
I dunno, if Trump 2 treats student loans, and especially the Borrower Defense Loan Discharge program the way the Trump 1 administration did - blocking various 'streamlining' procedures, imposing a statute of limitations, and using the Secretary of Education's discretionary powers to block, delay, and minimize repayments, then it will be a long time before they rack up Biden numbers.
To be clear, my point is due to the huge amount of student loan debt, neither Biden or trump did enough, and neither would do more in the next four years regardless of if Biden had run and won like he thinks he would have.
These are performative gestures that don't really accomplish anything.
Clapping when your team does it actively hurts everyone because then they stop, they got what they wanted, the PR boost.
So while Biden did performative meaningless shit, so did trump.
Don't clap for stuff like this either.
Some welcome news today for disabled veterans with student loan debt - President Trump announced an executive order forgiving all federal student loan debt for vets who are permanently and totally disabled.
Or this
Under Trump’s proposed plan, if you are a student loan borrower, your monthly student loan payments would be capped at 12.5% of your income. After 15 years of monthly payments, your remaining student loan debt would be forgiven.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2017/04/26/student-loans-trump/
What numbers?
These numbers are normal and happening naturally...
Unless these programs that existed before trump are suddenly stopped when he didmt stop them last time, they will continue to happen.
If this sounds like a lot of people, you're missing the scope of how many people have student loans in America, or that the number continues to increase.
More people with loans means more forgiveness. It's like caring about popular vote totals from prior elections compared to a current one, population keeps going up so every other number does too.
Why?
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So. What you're saying is: you have 100% of all the information Biden has, and based on his actions, you conclude that he's not doing enough with all that information you both have.
Okay, release that information. Show your work.
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I'm getting really tired of neoliberals cheering for basic mediocrity and acting like it's murder to criticize Biden. They're just an extension of the Democratic Party that is entirely unwilling to address the fact that simply not doing bad things doesn't make you good.
These are not accomplishments. This is not the promise that got me to vote for Biden despite not believing he would be a good president, nor that his primary run was above board. I want a president that actually works to better the lives of the people.
And while we're at it, I'd like a fair primary without DNC bullshit.
I’m getting really tired of neoliberals cheering for basic mediocrity and acting like it’s murder to criticize Biden
You remember a couple years ago when a WB board member said the reason they bought CNN was to make it more like Faux News to change people's minds?
These are those people that kept watching CNN and that is why they're acting like trump supporters.
The wealthy want voters with zero standards except the left by a name. And they've bought almost every media outlet to get those types of voters in both parties.
It's exhausting for sure. And this thread has all their usual rhetoric, complete with confident assumptions that anyone criticizing their king must be a "MAGAt." It's just so utterly incomprehensible to them that anyone can exist to their left, even though the US has no left wing parties.
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ITT: liberal apologists getting BIG MAD that the rest of us aren't buying their spin trying to give credit to Biden for merely enforcing the existing law.
The fact that you began this comment with “ITT” makes we wonder if you’re doing a bit or not
The fact that you're not refuting me makes me know you know I'm correct.
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Yeah, I didn't see anybody else enforcing that law or making sure these people were taken care of. Biden administration stepped in and made them follow the law, which would never have happened otherwise. This is the best he could do after his main plan was shot down by Republicans and the Supreme Court.
The President isn't all-powerful in America and only has so much reach--and that's a good thing when somebody like Trump comes in and wants to be the next dictator.
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