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[–] [email protected] 134 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You start to feel badly for legacy tech manufacturers like Canon.

Then they do things like this, and suddenly I am happy to see them die.

You can't treat your customers with contempt and not expect them to return the sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I have such fond memories of shooting on my old Canon DSLR.
It’s been 20 years since I bought my last DSLR (life, you know?) and I recently started thinking that maybe I should buy another before they close out the DSLR product line.

A huge disappointment to see this enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a reason mirrorless is here to stay, the autofocus is basically cheat mode compared to a DSLR. I do miss some aspects of the optical viewfinder though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know. And I know there’s way more market demand for mirrorless, as well as simpler mechanicals, so they have less failure points, but do I ever love the sound and that subtle feeling of a mirror slapping up and the shutter flicking out of place.
The feedback that offers when you capture a photo feels like you’re doing something ‘real’ when you take a photo. Everyone knows that you captured that moment. Those photons are yours forever, trapped in your little art-making box.

It’s kind of romantic, in a way. I feel like modern tech is great, but tends to be inscrutable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, while being able to silently capture a 30FPS burst is kinda magic, it just feels wrong. I still shoot with mechanical shutter (at least second curtain), basically for the feels (and the extra bit depth).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is mechanical shutter necessary for max bit depth on your camera? It isn't on mine (Sony), but bit depth reduces to 12 bit if you max out the framerate. You might still be able to get full 14 bit RAWs if you drop the framerate.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Canon camera sales are actually going up.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well this policy seems like a good way for them to nip that in the bud. Customer contempt is toxic to brand loyalty.

[–] RedditRefugee69 12 points 5 months ago

I'd be surprised if most people knew or cared, sadly.

Especially if most big companies are moving in that direction, people get used to the suck and think of it as our new normal.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

I found a way to use my old Nikon as a webcam using an HDMI capture card. Hooked it up to the camera's mini HDMI port and wham! had a working webcam!

But after thirty minutes, it would always switch off the live view, so i was left with a camera feed of the menus. Turns out this is an import restriction so it can be imported as a "still camera" and not a "movie camera" for significantly less taxes.

Enter some wonderful soul who found a way to hack the firmware to allow live view to stay on continuously, so now it works great as a webcam!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hope you've paid the difference in taxes for a video camera.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why? The thing is a webcam now.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lmao these fuckin people can’t take a joke.

Made me laugh.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I hope you've paid the difference in taxes for a comedian.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I have a D3000.

Literally the last DSLR to be made without a live view ... if it wasn't for bad luck I wouldn't have any.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Until consumers learn to reject proprietary software this will be the case

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Remember that GNU was founded after RMS had to deal with proprietary software on peripherals

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Was it more than a printer (that's what I read about)?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Man a one time fee, like fine I’d suck it up I guess but a subscription? Just why

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

Salesforce, that's why. It started with them and now it's the first thing regarded MBAs from Ivy league "top" universities consulting on behalf of McKinsey, PwC, EY, KPMG and Deloitte recommend to any Ctype position as soon as they are onboarded. If there was a virus that deleted consulting and marketing firms from the face of the earth, I'm positive we could end war and world hunger in a decade.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Your disposable income, such as it is, belongs to them. That’s why.

Draining working class with bug bites. Every sub is another swarm of insects in need of blood. You’re not supposed to notice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Middlemen upon middlemen inserting themselves into society, inventing solutions for problems that don't exist. Extracting fees and service charges on more and more transactions and basic functions.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Geez, during the pandemic Sony released its functionaltiy for free! It was really nice.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00247038

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I missed that one, thanks for the link 🙂

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I used that to turn an HX into a church service streaming cam. The zoom and quality were fantastic! It was far better than that knock off webcam they had before. Literally saved thousands of dollars thanks to Sony releasing that software!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This reminds me of when I tried to buy an insta360 camera, only to learn after the fact that it requires an app to function. And that the app isn't even compatible with all phones and tablets.

Maybe it's buried on the store page somewhere that installing the app is a requirement, but I was pretty annoyed to learn that I had just bought a plastic brick unless I also wanted to upgrade my phone.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow…wtf. I was about to buy it, thanks. Is there an alternative?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I don't know, I kind of gave up trying to buy one after the first one didn't work out. Mapillary recommends the GoPro Max (this was why I was interested), but I couldn't tell you if it needs an app to work.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

Sony gave us that webcam feature for free. Please don't get any bright ideas, Sony.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

Ah... Proprietary hardware and software. Ugh.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

Shareholders will surely love it when we treat high end professionals like shit

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is there an open source solution? I actually stopped using my Canon camera as a webcam because the software was so shitty, now they want me to pay to use it 🤣 All they've done is stopped me from ever buying another Canon camera again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You can do this on Linux using gphoto2, ffmpeg, and v4l2loopback. You probably won't get full resolution but the quality will still be good enough for video conferencing. See here for a guide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Cheers! Thank you

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

Panasonic provides the software for free for their cameras. Still only 720p but at least you're not paying for it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't the first ever webcam just a regular camera that took shots of the office coffee pot? I'm pretty sure it was a bespoke script

I also remember the dude who made a homebrew app for his DS to control his Canon DSLR for long exposure shots because the alternative was to drag a fat laptop around or buy a $300 Canon PDA.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

regular camera that took shots of the office coffee pot?

well it predated 'digital' cameras, was around when film was still big - 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Room_coffee_pot

128x128px greyscale feed was achieved with a video camera connected to an Acorn Archimedes quipped with a video capture card.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

$30 billion company want**'**s

twitch

Also, they should be clear that it's $5 per month

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That has to be an easy hack or workaround though, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

110% will void your warranty if there is.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

I've always had Canon. I've worked with their professional trainers. C100s, 5Ds, R5... All of them.

Good thing I've also used Nikon and Sony as well. Guess when I finally get sick of the R50 I just use around the house in... Ten years or so I'll see who in the game isn't a shit head.

So, I guess I'll never buy another camera, eh?

Even better, let me know if y'all are offloading any good RF glass! I'll pay bottom dollar!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Sell your glass NOW.

The old adage that lenses keep their value so you're only ever really renting them is about to fall off a cliff.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The funny thing about my camera (DC-G9), is that it obviously had the 30-minute limit, as required by the WTO. But at the end of that limit, it seamlessly stopped recording and started recording to a new file, thus making two separate recordings that you just had to stitch together later in post.

Since 2019 however, it got a firmware update after the limit was no longer required by the WTO. It now records to a single file without limit. Or so I'm told, I use mine for stills only, and almost never take any video. Oh, and it obviously works as a webcam.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

another company to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I am superior to everyone in the world because I own a Nikon DSLR (its a d60 from like 2010)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I need to buy a camera for recording some easy shots indoor (explainer videos, tutorials, vlogs etc…). I already have an old basic canon for photos. Does anyone have any tips?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Are you asking what camera to buy or how to use your old camera?

Fuji xh1/xh2 is the best bang for buck mirrorless video camera right now I think

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