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Hello everyone,

After a discussion on [email protected] ( https://feddit.org/post/6950586 ), a few people interested in privacy decided to reopen [email protected] as an alternative to [email protected] .

It's also nice to have a privacy community on an instance that can be accessed via VPNs.

Feel free to join us there!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm deeply concerned about their anticrypto discussion stance. Digital fungible money is a key component of any privacy discussion.

Many privacy focused services accept payments in crypto, such as vpns, web hosting, email services, etc

Not being able to discuss this axis of digital exposure is antithetical to a healthy discourse about privacy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hello @[email protected] @[email protected], could you please clarify?

From what I understood, promoting privacy services which allow to pay in crypto is OK, but not to promote cryptocurrencies themselves?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm ok with people promoting services which accept cryptocurrencies (hell, Lemmy itself accepts crypto donations). However promoting cryptocurrencies itself is a no-no in our instance.

Also: Crypto is a not private. The blockchain is public.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Crypto is a not private. The blockchain is public.

Not necessarily true for all ledgers, such as monero.

https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/faq/#anchor-different

Monero uses three different privacy technologies: ring signatures, ring confidential transactions (RingCT), and stealth addresses. These hide the sender, amount, and receiver in the transaction, respectively. All transactions on the network are private by mandate; there is no way to accidentally send a transparent transaction. This feature is exclusive to Monero. You do not need to trust anyone else with your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Monero users can and have been deanonymized by the police. Monero also acts as a de-facto tumbler, meaning by using it, you're money laundering for criminals as a matter of course.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm not trying to defend monero here, but the ability to have a conversation about such things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but not to promote cryptocurrencies themselves

My core complaint still stands, digital fungible money is part of the privacy conversation. Especially threat modeling for people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Personally it's okay with me. Feel free to have a look at the previous thread (https://feddit.org/post/6950586), but long story short

  • LW is not ideal as they don't allow VPNs
  • lemmy.ml is known for admins powertripping https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
  • programming.dev recently had federation issues (still do based on my last posts on [email protected] )
  • lemmy.one's admins are always silent

Lemmy.dbzer0 has a very good record of stability and management. If we need to discuss crypto in a dedicated discussion, why not. To be fair, I expect some backlash of any pro-crypto discussions in a general privacy community anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

What's the deal with VPNs? I noticed many instances don't work over VPN but didn't know where to ask.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Great, subbed, hope it goes well!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Noooooopoopo