I don't think this is a major "this is why people pirate". Pirate sites also regularly get cracked (possibly more often the the average streaming service). It isn't like bank details were leaked here so the only real difference is that in some pirate sites you don't need a login at all.
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Who logs into a pirate site, though? Who gives them their financial information?
As a crunchyroll subscriber, this fucking sucks. They are not doing their jobs.
Or…people pirate because they can. Let’s not take some sort of moral high ground here. I’m all for preserving lost media, but come on now. Just ~~own~~ download it.
Convenience is another important part of piracy, logging into 30+ subscriptions to watch 8 different shows is not fun. It’s just faster too.
Really? How many times does one have to actually login to a streaming service? Once? I love Plex just as much as the next pirate, but I don’t try to justify it with lame arguments.
Login in this scenario means access. I. E. having 10 different apps and searching through all of them for one show.
It’s really not that bad. Who actually has 10 different streaming services? Hyperbole doesn’t help your argument.
Again, piracy is piracy. There is no moral high ground to take. At the end of the day, it’s still piracy.
I did before I went back to pirating
Ok, I don’t believe you. Could you prove it?
Netflix, HBO max, Hulu, peacock, YouTube TV, crunchyroll, Amazon prime video, Disney plus, apple TV plus, paramount plus.
I have had all of those and a couple more. Personally, I've only had up to 8 at once, but if you're asking that other person to prove it, it's not outside the realm of likelihood.
All of those have exclusives. (especially for sports these days. I have to have 3 services just for football, I'm sure there's ESPN plus or some shit for people really into sports) Needing all of those just to watch the handful of exclusives you want isn't uncommon.
That’s excessive. How much would that be per month? YouTube TV alone is overpriced. Perhaps because I don’t care about live TV, I don’t see the need for so many services.
Just own the fact that you are a pirate. It’s ok, we’re discussing this in a piracy related community! I just can’t stand people’s terrible arguments trying to justify their high seas activities.
Folks pirate because it is easy, and best of all, free.
I never didn't own that I was a pirate. That's not in question here. What's in question is that the reason I am a pirate is I was tired of paying for and dealing with all of those streaming services, and the believability of having so many streaming services. Just because you don't see the need doesn't mean other people don't.
And you are right, it is excessive. Several hundred dollars per month excessive. But that's what a large portion of people do. Most people don't know how to pirate.
Like you said, folks pirate because it is easy. Easier than the alternative. When Netflix was easier than piracy and it was the only streaming service around, I didn't pirate (except anime but that's another thing entirely). And when steam came onto the scene, piracy plummeted as well. When companies offer truly convenient options, piracy goes down. That's not justification, that's the reason.
That’s fair
Same, I was subbing to everything, hbo was the last thing I cancelled when they cancelled made for love
I saw a link on Lemmy to a “GoG” clone on which you can download all games for free.
Like of all the places not to pirate I would assume the company that enforces no DRM, direct downloads that you can save indefinitely and that makes older games work on newer hardware, would be on the top of that list.
Since those are such common complaints on why to pirate.
Next to that they have deals often where the prices are already really low.
Competing with free is near impossible.
And yet when Netflix was good the amount of people who pirated went down a ton. I was on that train. Just give me a service that isn't outrageously expensive, has most of the content i want, and is more convenient than pirating and I'll do it, as long as i have an income.
Yeah early Netflix was great, now it’s too fragmented. Like a Tidal or Spotify would be useless if they would be fragmented on the same level.
Yeah, the music industry gets it and nearly everyone happily pays for Spotify as a result. Spotify is slowly enshitifying but it is still fairly convenient and has most things you would want to listen to.
Netflix was convenient, so was worth the cost. A 4K account with a few friends was just a few euros a month and had almost everything.
Now it's more expensive, can't share and I still need to download 75% of the things I want, so now arr + jellyseer is more convenient.
I was on this train. I paid for Netflix for a handful of years. Really my only complaint is that I couldn't share screenshots because of the DRM (you don't want free advertising?). But then the selection went downhill, new seasons of shows I was watching started appearing on other services. The UI got worse and slow. I eventually started getting pissed off and was wondering why I was paying for a frustrating service.
I had a very similar arc for YouTube Premium a few years after that one, I must have been a subscriber for 5 years at least. But then it got worse and worse.
Crunchyroll came from piracy, never felt right paying for it
Unclear whether they were hacked. A followup says:
We [Crunchyroll] have […] investigated the situation, and determined that there is no evidence that Crunchyroll’s systems have been compromised
They may have been fished.