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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 274 points 2 months ago (2 children)

While the company stops short of directly saying as much, it sure feels like the preposterously long ads we’re seeing here are an example of one tool in Google’s arsenal for effectively disabling YouTube playback for violators of the site’s ToS.

That makes no sense at all. It isn't like skipping ads results in a black screen for the length of the ad.

People with adblockers aren't going to see hour long ads or black screens when they don't see ads in the first place.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 151 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's hilarious that they think it would matter to anyone with an ad blocker. I haven't seen an ad for years on youtube. Hell I haven't even seen promotions in videos for a few months now that I found a sponsor segment blocker.

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Both are available on pc and mobile. Love it.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All that does is make YouTube money while costing money to the advertisers.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How long do you think those advertisers will stay when it turns out they've paid $1M in advertising with no change in sales?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I hear what you are saying but the truth is that they will stay, just so they aren't missing, regardless of ROI. Case in point is Xitter. The numbers clearly state that the level of engagement and sales conversion from Xitter ads is pitiful, especially when compared to Bluesky, yet advertisers still hang in there...just in case.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think Google doesn't care about that at all.

They most likely pay peanuts compared to you for "bandwidth" (which for them is more of an electricity cost and trough-output allocation than a specific numeric value like consumers and smaller companies have). You also cache the video on your own device making the multiple tab thing useless if you don't know what you're doing. And Google can also just block you when they attack their servers, move traffic around, and so much more advanced stuff that protects their infrastructure.

tl;dr: Trying to boycott Google by trying to waste their resources is useless.

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[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 144 points 2 months ago (20 children)

The YouTube owner explains that normal non-skippable in-stream ads are limited to just 15 seconds in length.

This is bullshit. I don't use an ad-blocker and often get a full minute of ad. And an extra minute if I happen to pause the stream for like 30 seconds and come back to it.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 187 points 2 months ago

This is bullshit. I don't use an ad-blocker

You should be kinder to yourself.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 95 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I consider the internet unusable without an ad blocker, ESPECIALLY youtube. I can't imagine life without it. It would be like camping without a tent, I guess I could get by but it can really suck depending on where you go.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hey! Whoa! That's not fair at all!

You can TOTALLY go camping without a tent. Just as long as you don't camp in a mosquitto heavy area.

Just sleep outside.

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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Using the internet without an ad blocker is like fucking every sex worker in Vegas without a condom.

Practice safe internet.

This message has not been sponsored by Firefox or uBlock Origin or Privacy Badger or Decentral Eyes, but if they want to throw some money my way I would accept.

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 42 points 2 months ago

Not using a real ad blocker (read: PiHole or UBlockOrigin, fuck AdBlockPlus) is a serious security threat this day in age. Do yourself a favor and get that set up ASAP.

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[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 128 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Are ad blockers to blame?

Why do you make me hit you?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The funny thing is using a good adblocker and I haven't noticed a single youtube ad, so if they're to blame, they're also the solution. I don't see how this move functionally does anything other than punish those who can't block ads.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 84 points 2 months ago (22 children)

While their statement is entirely correct, they're still wrong. YouTube is basically unusable without an ad blocker. Multiple 10 to 15 second long unskippable ads before the video even starts, and unless you watch videos all the way through you end up watching as much ad as you do content. It is damn near impossible to hop around between videos trying to find the one you want because of the pre-roll ads on every vid. On the other hand, with an ad block enabled YouTube is actually quite nice. The engagement algorithm is fucking trash of course but if you know what you're looking for and you go directly to it it's pretty good.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 73 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While the company stops short of directly saying as much, it sure feels like the preposterously long ads we’re seeing here are an example of one tool in Google’s arsenal for effectively disabling YouTube playback for violators of the site’s ToS.

I don't get it. When my adblocker works, I don't get to see this shit. Only if it fails I'llbe confronted with hour-long ads, so the incentive to find a better blocker is even higher?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They are trying hard to block all known adblockers. And if they ever do, this will become a serious problem.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It won't, I'll just go do something else with my free time...

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Arms races are rarely won by anyone.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They are won by arms dealers.

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[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (21 children)

I either watch YouTube without ads or don't watch at all. We need a new platform for videos.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Tell you the truth, once upon a time I really didn't mind the ads. In fact I was quite happy to support the creators that I like with watching the ads that appeared on their videos. But then YouTube started getting smarmy by blocking my suggestions because I didn't use history on my account. And then there's the problem of the ads getting longer. At which point I got fed up and downloaded the adblock software to stop seeing this garbage. And then this little war broke out over ads on the platform.

Quite frankly, so long as the people who make the software to block ads continue to do that kind of work I will continue to download their software and make Google spend boatloads of their own money to try to block the blockers. Because the blockers aren't going anywhere. Not to mention that the blockers were not quite as popular before Google started this little campaign. And now they have made people so hyper aware of the fact that they can actually go out and find some way to skip these stupid ads that they've basically dug their own grave. Broadcast TV spent decades on this failed quest.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Haven't seen these but my solution would be just don't watch the video. These ads may be unskippable but they aren't un-watch-something-else-able.

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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

One solution to that problem is to close YouTube on your device and do something else with your time.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Explanation: they weren't using an (functional) ad blocker for some reason.

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Youtube is like that bully that asks for your lunch money and when you say no, they slam you into a locker.

When you say no again, they start hitting you until you finally give that lunch money.

Once you do, they will show you the others are being abused harder when they demand more money from you.

I would love to contribute to the end of youtube.

To me, the value of youtube and it's music is far below the €18 it costs to get me and my wife ad free. My internet costs roughly that and offers a lot of possibilites, so why should i pay double for a service that supplies about 1 millionth of what the internet itself has to offer, especially considering my wage has barely changed while i watch my rent and groceries triple in cost.

Y'all need to realize there is an end to my money, you can't keep taking.

[–] nepenthes@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I'm laughing at ~~their~~ YouTube's response. Obviously someone used a thesaurus to write it and didn't know that "incalcitrant" is not even the word, no major dictionaries list it. It's like using irregardless instead of regardless The word ~~they~~ YouTube wanted is recalcitrant.

And it's very telling that ~~they~~ YouTube used that word because it shows they think they are King.

Recalicitrant:

Stubbornly resistant to authority or control.

Unwilling to obey orders or to do what should be done.

Resisting authority or control; not obedient or compliant.

Edit: I'm laughing at YouTube's response. I thought that was clear by context.. I guess people who didn't read the article didn't get that? Maybe it was paywalled to them?

Words matter, and by using the one they did, YouTube is basically saying that they demand people obey them.

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[–] shifty@leminal.space 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)
[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Youtube ReVanced is flawless. It's easy to patch

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Firefox + Ublock Origin

This right here. No longer using chromium-based browsers is a really good start.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 months ago

We’ve launched a global effort to urge viewers with ad blockers enabled to allow ads on YouTube or try YouTube Premium for an ad free experience.

By drastically increasing the rates every 6 months. Raising it past the prices of actual production streaming services. And paying the people making the content less and less money, until they have to put their own ads and their own content.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They force paying customers ( yt music premium & yt premium ) to disable ad blockers, too. Why? If I accordingly to the contract shouldn't get any ads why they would need to punish for blocking ads which shouldn't exist :-)?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 30 points 2 months ago

You aint getting the ads but they still need you to load the trackers mate.

It is for your own safety, taker your pants off, boy

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 months ago

Well, you see, there's this thing called capitalism...

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

uBlock Origin works wonders. I haven't seen a YouTube ad since I installed it.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I haven't read the article, but surely this is an accident? I have almost no faith left in our capitalistic society, but surely even Youtube understands that nobody is going to watch an hour long ad, right?

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (8 children)

just make it a subscription service already and see how many people remain...

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can someone donate a large sum to peertube please

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a chance ad blockers are eating up the 'Skip' button while also failing to block the ad.

A CHANCE?

[–] NudeNewt@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only trash adblockers like Adblock Plus and Adguard have that "chance". uBlock Origin the goat fr frf

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Youtube when I use Ublock Origin on my Thinkpad and ReVanced on my Pixel:

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hour long ads? How come I've never experienced these?

Oh wait, i used ReVanced hahahaha 🤣

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