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As a colored dude, it's hard to explain. I've even had white folks say, "Nah man it's not like that."
The impact of centuries of slavery, segregation, and unequal treatment doesn't disappear quickly. Even if the root causes were completely resolved (and they are not), the consequences reverberate for a long time. We cannot forget that much of our life is a result of where we start, and it was the same for our parents, and their parents.
They know.
Surprisingly, they don't. Well, the ones who enact / reject these policies do, but the layman doesn't. It's incredibly frustrating to have friends and co-workers who reject the explanation for why DEI matters and is important
Sorry for my ignorance, but what does DEI stand for?
No need to apologize. Diversity, equity and inclusion. It's the principle that having more representation is a good thing. The Trump administration is against it because they claim it takes opportunities away from straight white men.
People denied COVID was real whilst gargling their own lungs. What the fuck would it take to convince you these assholes aren't secretly well-informed?
Meant the people doing it
She still believes that conservatives argue in good faith?
I feel like "DEI" is a bandaid to a bigger issue, that is: unequal opportunities due to schools that aren't properly funded (amongst many other things in a person's childhood).
If those issue are fixed, these "DEI" stuff wouldn't even need to exist.
Also:
I hate how people complain that Harris is somehow "DEI"
Like, isn't politicians supposed to represent the people? If they keep picking White Men, how are minorities supposed to feel like a part of the country? There were 45 presidents of which 44 were White Men, and this ticket of a Black Woman (Harris) + a White Man (Walz) somehow triggers people. 🙄 (Like who cares, vote for policy, not people)
Even if Harris was elected, Black Presidents wouldn't even represent 5% of all people who have been presidents. (2/46 = 4.34% vs the black population at 13%) Why they (conservatives) be complaining so much lol.
The country is a racist shithole, and more people than you might think are essentially closeted bigots, unless they think you're some ally, oh boy will they open up and it gets uncomfortable.
If they keep picking White Men, how are minorities supposed to feel like a part of the country?
That's not a bug, it's a feature.
I fully agree and in typical American fashion, affirmative action and DEI were just bandaids to quickly solve some of the effects of institutional discrimination, instead of solving it at the root.
Even I, as a very progressive person, don't like some DEI hires. But the actual problematic DEI hires are not talented people like Kamala Harris. They are connected incompetent people.
I think Clarence Thomas would be a good example. By most accounts he is the most corrupt and incompetent justice, who just happened to run in the right conservative circles.
In the business world, I also see quite a lot of well-connected incompetent people. It used to be white gulf buddies, now it tends to be the white sister-of, or the latina wife-of, the gulf buddy.
Maybe the Trump kids are the best example of DEI hires. Ivanka Trump, anyone?
But the actual problematic DEI hires are not talented people like Kamala Harris. They are connected incompetent people.
I argue that Harris isn't really that much of a "DEI Hire".
I mean, sure, you might argue she only got picked because of race and gender. But the purpose of politicians in a democratic system is to make people feel represented, not necessarily the "smartest" or "most experienced". Race and Gender absolutely matters. Like, if we keep having white men in the white house, that is a big "f you" to women and minorities. So picking Harris is absolutely essential to acknowledge the existence of Black people and Women. (And Harris isn't even some random person, she was qualified enough to be Attorney General of CA, and a Senator, merit definitely contributed to her getting picked)
Besides, the President (and Vice President) will have a lot of advisors to help them with the job, you don't need someone that's an Einstein to be President, just someone with overall good policy and some compassion, and can pick good cabinet members to run the country.
DEI is state approved racism designed to replace non approved racism.
You can believe one is worse than the other.
I believe both are shit.
It isn't about race. It's about making sure that all perspectives are taken into account when making a decision. That's it. The think tanks against it are against having rules put upon them. Removing DEI is the same as stripping out market regulation.
DEI is literally oversight to ensure that there ISNT racism . For example, it includes:
Outreach programs to talk to people in underrepresented communities to tell them that opportunities exist
Avoiding biased language and assumptions in the hiring process that would negatively impact people of certain demographics
Hiring authorities that prevent bias against the disabled and veterans
Audits and data to see if an organization has decided to just be racist and reject non-white applicants
Your argument is, we should remove people's protections because if we taught everyone better they wouldnt be discriminatory.
wtf do you think DEI is?? have you never sat through a training? it's the most boring thing ever
DEI also includes protecting people with disabilities, and veterans from getting skipped over in the hiring process. Those have nothing to do with race. Do veterans deserve to get shit canned too?
What's your answer to this then?
Free education and healthcare for everyone, regardless of background, ethnicity and gender.
That would be awesome but it doesn't address the issue unless you want to pretend lack of education and healthcare are the major barries holding women and minorities back in the workforce.
That's great.
Now do equal opportunities for employment.
And how do we do that?
Equality and equity are not the same thing, systemic issues are baked into our laws and policies. Mostly geared at the lower socioeconomic status members of society.
Which tend to be minority members due to the very same systemic issues.
Some people need a different sized ladder to get to the same position.
Edit: an extra word
Damn, bet nobody was expecting this reply!
I agree completely.
Because it's bullshit. It's saying these disenfranchised people need help to better themselves and ignores the systems in place that work directly against them achieving success.
It also has nothing to do with DEI, which is generally about workplace culture and hiring practices.
It seems a lot of people are confusing DEI for affirmative action.
Ok cracker.
I think, "state approved racism" is the best definition. God forbid to be a person from Eastern Europe: even though you have a background akin to middle East (mostly democracy and wealth-wise), you'll get treated as a fucking King Charles in US because of your skin color. Check my privelege? I didn't have any to begin with!
As a white guy, it is like that. In the same way it is in female run office spaces. But white guy culture is definitely the most toxic. They feel unashamedly deserving when they find good old boys clubs.
Having worked in a sexist office, it sucks, having worked for good old boys, it sucks. Not being able to call people out on their shit fucking sucks.
female run office spaces
The worst places I have worked at had female leadership and majority women employees. The gossip and bullying was off the scale. Older ladies harassing young men was a daily occurrence and laughed at.
Diversity
Equity
Inclusion
It's not "woke", no matter how hard they try to convince you of it! Diversity: Okay, yeah. If you're some close-minded person who's stayed in the same small town your whole life you might fear people who are different and not understand them. Literally part of what these initiatives are trying to improve, but whatever. However, the other two are basically just about fairness and making sure everyone has the chance to thrive! Nothing to fear there! Who could possibly be against that!?
To answer the last sentence: literally Nazis
As a white guy, I'd like to think it's not like that. I'd like to think that we left racism and all this bullshit in the past and any job goes to the best qualified applicant regardless of race, gender, or sexual preferences.
While I would like that to be true, I know that isn't the world we live in.
People hire their friends and family anyway.
We're attracting the good trolls, I'm sorry that I have to lock it.
People lie about it in my experience. I work in government and in education. I've received our "DEI" training. I'm in the very heart of it, and all I've seen is that it's the exact thing that the people who complain about it say (sometimes) that they want instead. They (probably say but don't necessarily mean) that we should hire based on merit and not race. Well guess what? My dei training is watching a video where: some boss says "I don't want to hire Ahmed ", his subordinate says "but he's the best candidate" and his boss says "yeah but he's Indian" freeze frame, question on what you should do, play video saying to hire him if he's the most qualified guy.
Maybe your experience is different, but I'm in an organization that is what gets pointed to the hardest as "the problem" by these people, and I have seen what they describe. Maybe it's different for HR, but are you in our HR department, or have you just "heard about it"
if you think white people are bad, you should see south and east Asians
Just wait until Silicon Valley Google coders are all Indian foreign born making 35K/year living on the Google campus. DEI works both ways.
This misses the point entirely.
DEI is about finding the best candidate for the job, and paying them fair wages.
What you’re describing is literally anti-DEI. Musk and Trump have both been open about using the H-1B visa program to find foreign workers who will work cheaply, and they do it so that they don’t have to pay American workers a fair amount.