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I knew this would happen and loads of people on lemmy accused me of “fearmongering” or “only caring about myself” when I said I’d vote Harris
"Kamala Harris is not the perfect progressive candidate in every way. How can I possibly vote for her? I'll sit this one out. That'll show 'em!"
People need to accept that the electoral system in the US is just a trolley problem at the end of the day unfortunately.
Basically, and people let 'the enemy of perfect get in the way of good enough'. Progress is incremental unfortunately. That's just how it is. We can accept that, or we get this crap.
not really close to ‘good enough’ but least bad
This is exactly the fucking problem, if it's not perfect enough then people allow it to get worse instead.
I voted for her because she was the lesser evil, but describing her as just “not the perfect progressive candidate in every way” is a gross misrepresentation. She was probably the most right leaning Democratic candidate to run in a general election and was openly adopting many of the Republican stances. There were basically two Republicans running.
Really? She was to the right of the Clintons? Obama? John Kerry, even? I think you have a selective memory.
There were basically two Republicans running.
Fucking absurd. There is a reason you don't name one specific
With me, at least, they have moved on to, "you care more about your gay daughter than Palestinians!" Which... yeah. That's called parenting. Along with, "why are you worried about a queer genocide that hasn't happened yet?!" Because I don't want to chance it? People can be such assholes.
It’s like yeah.
If both candidates mean gaza is fucked, but one of them means hundreds of thousands of extra unnecessary deaths to disabled people, homeless people, migrants, poor people, queer and trans people etc.
Of fucking course I’ll pick the least bad option instead of being apathetic about it. Especially since I’m a disabled poor person who has had bouts of homelessness.
These same people do not seem to understand that "least bad option" does not mean "good option." Some of them are now justifying it by saying Harris supports genocide but all Trump supports is ethnic cleansing. Seriously.
I have always taken the advice of W.C. Fields: "I never vote for, only against." Because there has never been a politician in my adult life that I would have voted for in a general presidential election. Or even a senatorial election,
Same. I’m an anarchist. I don’t believe in this distorted liberal democratic system that seems to benefit the elite no matter the outcome.
But I sure as hell am going to exercise my right to vote. It being a shitty system where I have little power doesn't mean I should throw away the power I do have!
That’s nuts. “Only voting for yourself” is usually a trump vote. Generally, a Left-wing voter asks “What’s best for everyone?” and a Right-wing voter asks “What’s best for me?”
Of course, the Democrat party isn’t left-wing (more like middle-right) but still, it’s a far less selfish vote than trump.
I don't know about your life, but my life is made better by the acceptance and participation of all sorts of people. I'm selfishly voting for Democrats because I have 4 daughter and a gay son.
My wife and I make enough money and I could be happy on less if it improved the environment around me by improving the lives of the people I share the world with. Those brown people would be a hell of a lot less scary to us white people if so many of them weren't in desperate financial straits, and if we didn't teach them to expect hatred and cruelty from us.
I'm a selfish-as-fuck-left-wing-voter.
Amen brother, a rising tide raises all ships
Don't forget the new tax plan also includes tax increases for us plebs too!
Cut benefits, increase payments! Good job Magoos!
cutting taxes for the wealthy could risk damaging the populist image that Trump has cultivated.
It's never seemed to damage his image with his supporters before. He could hold them down and shit into their mouths and they'd find a reason to think it was an ok thing to do
Many of his supporters don't consider themselves poor or middle-class, they consider themselves pre-millionaires.
When I was a kid, I was told that "The American Dream" was a house and two cars. At some point along the way, that morphed into "anyone can be a millionaire."
Probably about the time it started taking a million dollars to comfortably maintain a house and two cars...
Have it. Don't want it. New American dream is to be able to fuck off in the woods for weeks at a time, and still have medical care.
I dont think these people realize how close they are to being ripped apart in the street by an angry mob...and I kind of hope they don't realize it until its too late.
Really? The people affected by this wanted this turd in the office or at least didn't have a problem enough with him to go vote for someone else.
Because the people who need this money are leading rough, rough lives already and often don't have the time or energy to properly learn politics. They're the kind of people who can't afford to miss work or looking after their family to vote.
They're victims of their circumstances and now they're going to suffer more for it. They're not the enemies here.
The angry mob came when they didn't win the election 4 years ago.
The only thing getting ripped apart are his pants so they can kiss his ass raw
LMFAO, WHAT BENEFITS?!?!?
While I agree the US does a fraction of what they could: Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
WIC
HUD
ESG
COC
Department of Education
The list goes on and on. If you think there aren't a LOT of social programs that they can cut, you are in for a very, very rough time.
Hmm interesting how all the efficiency that they are introducing requires cutting benefits. Almost as if they were pleasing the 1% or something.
See, this right here is the MAIN AGENDA of the qon elitists.
All the other identity politics bullshit is largely red meat for his dipshit base. Sure, there are true believers like Bannon and Miller that are for that, but this is the MAIN thing: sending more money to the already extremely and obscenely affluent, and fucking the 99%.
Well, that and crashing the economy to steal everything they don't already own for a pittance.
Surely this will make groceries more affordable.