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A federal judge temporarily blocked Elon Musk from accessing sensitive Labor Department data, a major win for unions concerned about worker privacy.

The lawsuit, filed by federal employee unions, argued that DOGE’s demands posed a threat to labor rights.

Union leaders praised the decision as a safeguard against government overreach.

DOGE has also faced restrictions on Treasury Department access and has taken control of USAID and the Office of Personnel Management, sparking high-profile resignations.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm still salty how many people are still running around shit talking the unions like they haven't done anything.

Just because mainstream news doesn't mention it yet, doesn't mean it's not happening. If you're not on a union mailing list, you're not hearing about stuff till it gets to this point.

There's a shit ton of lawsuits going on, mostly because the unions work hand in hand, so when one sues, they all sue.

It's not like private sector, when fed unions fight the federal government, the federal government is often the side with less resources.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unions are why we have labor rights.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Protests (often incredibly violent ones) are why we have unions.

*Note an accurate explanation of how we got our rights isn't directly advocating for how to keep them or as advocacy for violence in any form, because that's what unacceptable about this situation

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And songs like “Which Side Are You On?” make it clear that it wasn’t easy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've seen Dylan live, but I didn't know he made an original till right now...

I immediately thought of the Dead Prez version from a decade ago and wasn't sure what was going on lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pete Seeger was the first to record it. I cannot recall who the original songwriter was but her husband was a miner and not a scab for JH Blair. I strongly suggest finding one if the live versions from the earlier days if you can. It’s a great song to hear thousands singing in unison especially when you know most were unionized

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was just coming to fix that lol.

I searched it and saw a B Dolan version from like a dozen years ago and got mixed up.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Also, remember that legal, regulated unions with a union steward empowered to negotiate are the compromise. The alternative was rioting mobs of factory workers.

In 1812 the forces of General Ludd attacked a mill near Manchester, which was defended by British soldiers and literal cannons. The reason why we have unions today is that dealing with unions was a more palatable option for the bosses than dealing with an angry mob.

Also, strikes are the more peaceful, more acceptable option that was a compromise vs. simply wrecking the machines.

All this time fighting against unions has meant the alternative to unions simply becomes more likely, and if the business owners think they hate unions, imagine how they'll like angry mobs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

This lawsuit was headed by the AFL-CIO, which is a union of unions.

I was at my monthly meeting last night until 7:45, the meeting started at 4:30. Lots of people were concerned and discussing the attacks on the NLRB, DoL and OSHA; concerned about this administration's anti-worker tilt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People shit talk the unions because our unions are just a microcosm of the US. They are just as broken and corrupt as our government.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

I didn't ask for ran example, but yes that's entirely the type of comment I'm talking about...

Just because you personally haven't heard of something, doesn't mean it's not happening.

That's literally how trump thinks tho

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes create a gigantic organization from scratch random internet person! Haha gottem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Every gigantic organization was originally an idea some random internet person had. You seem to be unwilling to follow the logic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

TIL "help" means "do it all by yourself."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Also - these unions are made up of hundreds of thousands of beaurocrats, and NOBODY knows the rules like beaurocrats.

Source: am municipal bureaucrat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

More importantly, bureaucrats who are used to politicians making kneejerk reactions and trying things they can't do.

Bureaucrats used to planning ahead for multiple contingencies.

trump and Elmo aren't chaotic forces, they're incredibly predictable idiots. The unions arent scrambling to react like a disorganized mass of employees, they just shrug and pull the next packet of documents out of a drawer and follow the next step in the binder.

They don't need to worry about flashy attorney fees, they have an army of beige suit lawyers who file boring and predictable arguments that were written before Elmo thought to put the current plan into motion. And they have the massive savings account to pay those boring lawyers for a very long time, because federal bureacrats are risk adverse and plan for raining days.

There's a reason neoliberals play nice when they decimate the federal workforce.

The union can outlast a president.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A federal judge temporarily blocked

Such wow

Many stunning

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be honest, that there was any win at all is pretty shocking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really. "Temporary" blocks are pretty common. Wake me up when they're permanent.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Many of the delays in Trumps cases were also temporary blocks. Every monkey wrench in the facist machine helps.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

True, it's just difficult to celebrate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thank you for not falling into inescapable despair this day. Be well. We're all struggling in some way right now. Take care of yourself and those around you as well as you can in these times. Disengage when you need to recharge. Just don't give up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thank you for not falling into inescapable despair this day.

Despair is an often maligned experience to be erased and eradicated in modern society, but don't fear despair.

Fear the people who are skilled at convincing you any length of life spent fleeing from your negative emotions is a preferable substitute to processing, embodying and grieving with those negative existential emotions and letting them lead you into radical action to save and protect your loved ones NOW.

Fall into despair, now is the time. Despair is the threshold to coming to peace with the fact that there is a good chance you don't have a future, just this small time left.

Despair is the only thing that can get you to understand how frighteningly unstoppable you are when you realize there is no reason not to fight with absolutely everything you have for a better future NOW. In this moment despair makes you radically free in a way positive emotions can hardly do.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Honestly what happens if they disobey the order?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

They'll just get a harshly worded letter or something

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Stunning" is such a sad word to use in this context.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

News corps still acting like it's a sports game.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Capitalism still acting like it’s an impressions game

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"stunning win" bullshit!

Get real, any small victory today is simply to maintain the rights that already existed and that were gradually taken away by neoliberal policies and not to move forward

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"neo liberal"

Somehow still manages to blame anyone but conservatives...for things conservatives do.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Neoliberalism: A political theory of the late 1900s holding that personal liberty is maximized by limiting government interference in the operation of free markets.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This definition is simplistic. Neoliberalism goes beyond the "supposed" minimal State and the so-called "supposed" individual freedom. It also serves as an agenda of customs, the zeitgeist of our time and that permeates all human relationships where everything becomes commodity.

And yet the definition is still incomplete

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Modern conservatives are neoliberals in most cases... so not only are you misunderstanding what the OP was trying to rightly highlight but your statement is also just plain wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Modern conservatives are white nationalist christo reactionaries now. Maybe 20 years ago you could say all they wanted was limited government and control over economic policies, but not now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

You clearly don't know what that word means

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

"I can't beleive he didn't critique the Nazis instead of our allies that are for some reason helping the Nazis!"

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like a court order will stop them.

The court needs to order their arrest and detention.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

so trump can pardon them?
still it’d be worth it to see elmo in handcuffs do the perp walk

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a just world he would have all of his skin ripped off by a mob.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you think the one person who downvoted this was musk on his fediverse alt account?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

He's a terminally online incel so probably

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Union lawyers work their asses off as they are under constant barrage of top-down leaders trying to take control and wealthy attempting to subvert their existence. I wonder how much dues would go down if there were more worker protection laws. Trump going after unions is next on the list. You suck if you're not a part of your workplace union.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A real win would involve fElon and his dogebois being given a one-way trip to Gitmo.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

So did they unplug the server, or what proof do we have he stopped? There's no consequences for these people for breaking the law anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Diabolical Oligarch Grifting Efficiently"

Efficiently? Really?

How about Evilly? Eagerly? Excitedly? Embarrassingly? Endlessly? Eternally? Enormously? Or, if nothing else, Erectly?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

He knows he won't be able to grift forever so he moves fast and (often intentionally) breaks things. If you need an E word, there is edaciously but that's not very well-known.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Finally a judge with spine. Musk’s data-grubbing circus hits a wall as unions claw back crumbs of dignity from his corporate vultures. DOGE’s “mission” was always just surveillance cosplay—now they’re caught red-handed trying to vacuum up worker DNA under the noble guise of “efficiency.”

Meanwhile, Treasury’s slamming doors while USAID and OPM get strip-mined in Musk’s fire sale of democracy. Those high-profile resignations? Smartest career move since rats fled the Titanic.

The real win? Watching billionaire tantrums when someone says “no” to their data-hoarding octopus arms. Next target: his Mars colonization tax dodge.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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