Might as well. There’s not much football in a football broadcast to begin with.
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Football is more of a turn-based strategy game than a real-time action game.
I had a coworker that refused to believe it was turn based. I think it broke his brain.
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And it's a final fantasy optional megaboss with unskippable dialog.
I used to work for a local TV station as a videographer. We always had to go out and get "highlights" of high school and college sports games in the area. Football was by far the worst, because it could literally take you an hour to get any 10-15 seconds of footage that was usable.
I hated football before that. Now I really hate football.
This talking point only reveals your own ignorance of the sport. Which is fine, nobody needs to know or enjoy football. But having an ignorant take to complain about what someone else enjoys just shows that’s there’s a good chance you don’t care and only want to complain about something you don’t enjoy.
As a non sports ball enjoyer I'm curious, why is this is not a bad thing? Like, I have no dog in this fight. I don't dislike football or any other sport, I've just never found any joy in watching sports on TV. Occasionally it's fun to go to a game, and it's very fun to participate in one (never played football, but have played baseball, softball, kickball, and played soccer twice), but watching it on TV has never been fun for me. So, as someone (I assume) who enjoys watching a game on TV, why/why not is a chart like above not demonstrating a negative? I've never really been able to pinpoint why I don't enjoy watching sports, and when I saw the chart my first thought was "oh, is that why I don't like watching football?"
I can definitely see the presentation of football being off putting. I think the biggest thing is that chart is the description of shots of players just standing around. During that time there is strategy happening. Where someone lines up, how then other side responds and the back and forth from there represent the “grand strategy” of the game. If you’re into it, this can be a very compelling part. It’s an important part of the game that establishes and ebb ad flow and gives you a chance to try to figure out the strategies and where things are heading, I’m always wrong :). Outside of that part, that “dead air” I think helps generate a lot of the communal aspect of watching it. It’s a time for folks to chat about what’s happening in the game, debate about what a catch is, grab some snacks, and chat about other things.
Imagine something like chess, even less time with “action,” at least is some game types. But it can still hold the attention and interest of the people watching. If someone were to walk in with no knowledge they would probably wonder why there’s all this downtime and how could anyone enjoy it. Not sure if that’s the best metaphor but it’s what I’ve got at the moment.
It really is just somebody without interest or knowledge of someone’s activity then coming in to mock. Just makes it seem like they’re trying to be superior and yuck someone else’s yum.
Hope that answered at least some of what you were asking and makes some level of sense :)
ETA: Ads suck. Finding more ways to inject advertising sucks. Doing Picture in Picture ads sucks. You will not find me disagreeing with that aspect in any way ;)
I feel you. Some of the best games in baseball are the pitcher duels. As my kids and wife put it, we just paid a bunch of money to see grown professionals play catch until someone finally hit a homerun.
There's always a game within a game and if you don't follow or know... it's boring.
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People have been saying that to me for years – often angrily – but honestly, every game I’ve ever seen has been like 5 minutes of game during which a guy touches another guy the wrong way, followed by a foul or something, then at least a half hour of back-to-back replays interspersed with a few guys debating every aspect of the way each guy touched another guy, plus at least ten minutes of advertising, then repeat.
I’m pretty sure even fans wouldn’t disagree with my timing breakdown.
eta: it sounds annoying broken down like that, but I’d argue fans should be annoyed at the industry, rather than at non-fans.
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The bottom half of the pie chart is the reason I can manage to watch it. It doesn't demand constant attention, and offers occasional moments of focused action and excitement during your conversation/meal/game/doomscrolling.
The Live TV and ads are the worst part of trying to watch any sport live though, so I don't actually watch much. Just a couple games the entire year. Actually I bet the superb owl was the first game of the year I watched beginning to end without interruption.
With other sports like Hockey, I can work up the excitement to watch some games if I hear the team is good and they're already deep into the playoffs, lol.
I hate that I love football. Especially if you played, it hard to stop watching. NFL aways had the best camera tech, and was amazing in the 80s/90s. No other show on the TV was nearly as good technically.
I want to know the source for that and if it's actually accurate. It does feel right though.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704281204575002852055561406 (paywall removed) & https://web.archive.org/web/20100116114207/http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Comparing-Four-NFL-Games.html
I took an odd journey to get to this source. The actual graphic posted here is rotated and some of its colors were changed. The source for the visualization is this reddit post which links to the WSJ article. According to comments on the reddit post, the visualization pulled from charts from the second archive link, but I can’t find them in the non-paywalled WSJ article (and I can’t access the original article since I’m not subscribed to the WSJ).
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This is why I have hated football for years. It's fuckin boring to watch. The halftime show was lit though.
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i have seen a few volley ball games with beach balls break out at more than a few concerts....not that anyone was keeping score.
I can't imagine this will reach the right audience, but in the lead up to the superb owl this year I was saying that a great sketch about this country would be to have this giant hyped up spectical where everyone's getting all fucking jazzed up and talking about how all of this epic shit is going to happen and then at the climax of the sketch you get to the actual "action" and it's just a dude flipping a coin once.
That's America IMO, and it's definitely illustrated fully in the super bowl: six hours for ten seconds of actual action interrupted constantly by bullshit and commercials and followed by idiots tearing "their city" apart because their laundry was crowned "world champions" of a sport only played by people in one country.
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As a fan of neither team, that Kendrick performance was fucking fantastic.
as someone who's not really into hiphop/rap that much, Kendrick has some fucking bangers, and that show was hype af.
only watched it because conservatives are struggling to shit talk it without outright saying "I don't want to see [black people] during an NFL game"... turns out it was lit. there's a reason they can't really say anything about it without being just straight up racist: "that's not music" - yes it very clearly is & "he's mumbling" - no he definitely isn't and his vocals were super clear to understand to the point that I was surprised how clear it was with all the physicality involved. nah they just wanna say "I don't speak black".
Man I had a hard time understanding his vocals but that might have just been the sound mixing on the broadcast. Heard that it was clearer on YouTube or other places to watch just the performance by itself. Probably easier to make out in the stands, no idea though.
If I listened real hard I caught some of it but that's probably also because my ears are not tuned well for a lot of hip hop just in general I have a hard time picking up lyrics for a lot of rap artists.
Still, you're spot on with the racism perspective - honestly it's just people whining it's not "their" kind of music. Ok, well, taste is subjective and I thought it was a banging show even if I didn't clearly hear everything he said. Conservatives just want to be racist but pretend they're not racist. When I hear someone say, "I'm not racist," 95% of the time it's because they're racist and said or did some racist shit.
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Real football*, not that American shit.
(Association Football but Australian Football is cool, too)
The pace of American football is utter shit, and I think it relies too much on in-game coaching, but the actual strategy and feats of athleticism are equally impressive to any other version and have their own charm, but none of it is important enough for me to tell anyone they have to give it a try.
Foosball
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What's fun about football, tho? I mean, it's basically a bunch of dudes hitting a sphere for some weird reason or fighting for the pleasure of carrying an egg (and making more money than the most of us while at it)
Do you personally dislike all sports or just football?
Not them but I do actually have a special dislike for football over most other sports, the ratio of stuff happening:boring nothing is really bad when watching and when playing
Fair fair. Do you feel the same way about baseball?
Professional absolutely, and as a watching sport for sure
But local games I can actually enjoy playing because theres way less pause between the action in BB than FB. Can get through an entire game of BB with friends or a group in a decent amount of time, though I do wish there was more to do for those on the batting side when they're not fielded
Yeah I find watching baseball (professional or otherwise) in person to be wayyyy more fun than on the tv. That being said the recent addition of the pitch clock does make things go much faster even on the tv imo
I'm not OP but I dislike football because it's got a huge risk of TBI for the players, like way more than most sports, even with the helmets. Also it feels really nationalistic and militarized
Also how it’s a cult in southern states.
Our high school state association/hall of fame has several coaches on it who have sexually abused their players. If it becomes too much of a problem, they move on to the next small town, but a lot of them will play golf/go hunting with their superintendents (very small districts = a grift for lots of “admin” positions)
Being a football player is a free pass for all kinds of behavior, at all levels. Think of how regularly we learn that a professional player is a batterer - but in Ringaling or Waco - no one is going to care if the quarterback rapes a cheerleader.
It’s also funded disproportionately. It pissed me off looking over at a brand new football stadium and shiny new uniforms and cleats - while I was spending my own cash on vinegar and baking soda so I could have some semblance of “lab” (my sink also didn’t work lol)
But they also shaft girls athletics - that’s a big part of title 9’s sports regulations. School districts will simply pump all of their funds/attention into boys football and to a lesser extent boys basketball program. They have to be forced to allow girls chances to play.
I have no problem with people being passionate about a team, enjoying watching games, enjoying football. There’s just an extremely disturbing culture of tribalism that spills over into harmful social dynamics.
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I don't dislike most of them per se, I just don't understand most of them. I mean, it's quite impressive what those people can achieve, but I'd rather watch some dude free-climbing in the grand canion or something of that nature ('cause for me even climbing a 20m pipe was scary asf).
Now that i think of it, football is probably singled out in my mind due to its fans doing some batshit crazy stuff oftentimes. Like dude, chill out, it's just a bunch of people kicking a ball. Save your molotov for your friendly local politicians.
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Had a metal festival in town with the gimmick that the bands had a soccer tornament on the side. Great fun.
I saw Deadmau5 and he stopped to play Rocket League mid show one time. That's as close as I can get to the prompt.
im not opposed
Like watching a UFC match and a hockey game breaks out.
I can see it, Yakety Sax playing the entier 4 minute game.