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A closed-door meeting for House Democrats this week included a gripe-fest directed at liberal grassroots organizations, sources tell Axios.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Corporate democratic elites are so pathetic. They express they anger at organized grassroot organizations that are ready to fight, but instead they beg their donors to not abandon them and continue to fund them...

Hakeem Jeffries met privately with Silicon Valley donors in bid to ‘mend fences.’

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Grassroots organizations aren't giving them giant slush funds of cash for their election campaigns or offering them 6 or 7 figure salary jobs after they leave office so what good are they?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Dems are done. I don't think even current fascist takeover is enough for them to get back the voters on their side until these complicit ghouls are in positions of power.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need more than new parties. We need an all new government once this war is over.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

If y'all can do this without too many people dying I think we'll be able to say that all of North America came out of Trump 2 winning, which would be... unexpected, to say the least.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are just so fucking detached from their base if they're pissed at long-established normie groups like MoveOn and Indivisible. We're not talking about the insurgent left flank here, they're pissed at the very core of the party.

God I want some names on this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

God I want some names on this.

Jeff Jeffries

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

It's really something we've seen happen dozens of times before in the last few hundred years. These big liberals, these Grand bourgeoisie, the Arch capitalists they just have no real support base. They rely entirely upon convincing leftists and the little liberals, the petite bourgeoisie, to make common cause with them. But they just can't resist fucking over everybody. They cannot for the life of them resist doing only things that enrich them and their small Cadre of rich friends. Their support base is an inch wide and not even that deep. Liberals just aren't our friends. At best they're temporary allies who were always looking to put a knife in our backs. We need our own party.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need our own party, but before that can happen we need nationwide elimination of first past the post elections. Or the demise of the Democratic party. I'll take either but preferably both.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Never going to happen. First pass the post will never change within the Democratic Party. On the other hand the Democratic party might already be dead. It's injured to the point that abandoning it doesn't cause any problems that don't already exist. This is the point to kill it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

So, they're complicit basically? They sure aren't slowing down his nominees!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (20 children)

At this point should I just register Republican instead so I can try to get more progressive Republicans in their primary? I'm pretty sure the DNC has disappeared up its own asshole.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My outsider perspective has always been that the usa democratic party was simply about keeping the masses "happy", with the entire emphasis on the quotation marks, giving juuuust enough leeway on something while doing everything the corporate overlords demanded

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

My insider perspective says you're absolutely correct.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

while doing everything the corporate overlords demanded

Did the "corporate overlords" demand the last 3 Dem presidents raise taxes on the wealthy and/or corporations? That would be weird since their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd top priorities are tax cuts for billionaire elites.

giving juuuust enough leeway

Then how did FDR create Social Security, LBJ create Medicare, and Obama create the ACA?

The one and only way to achieve major progress is for Dems to win and win big.

And the only way to win the class war is to raise the top tax rate on billionaires back to 70% or 90%.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The tone of your response is off. They're sharing an impression that they admit is a perception from outside. There are 236 other countries in the world, and they probably don't learn much at all about FDR as we do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We need a third party so bad. And to run the dnc off a cliff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You sweet summer child, you won’t ever vote again.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't condescend, please. We all want to pull out of this tailspin somehow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you, comrade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And I'm aware you're correct, but if we can pull through this thing we can make a new system, and insulting people with "You sweet summer child" doesn't help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trying to suggest “everything is fine” and we can “pull through this” inspires people to sit around and wait for things to get better, when they won’t get better without action. So, do you want things to get better or do you not? There isn’t a third option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did not mean "sit around and do nothing" when I said 'pull through this thing'.

I meant fight like hell and tear our freedom back from the fascists by any means necessary.

But if you wanna quibble about verbiage, sure, that'll get something accomplished.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

2026 is not a lost cause. Bigtime blue wave potential. Focus up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Focus up? lol. Okay.

If the blue wave hasn’t happened yet, it’s not gonna happen. And if it did—judges will still side with Trump.

Besides, since he’s now allowed to do anything, he’ll do anything to keep the power

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While true in spirit, first past the post voting kind of ruins everything:

Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

The Democrats need to be browbeaten and taken over, not competed with, until we get ranked choice/alternative vote/single transferable vote, or something like those.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

And I am "pissed" at Jeffries and House Dem leaders. If you aren't going to help then get the f*ck out of the way and go fetch AOC and Sanders.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Shut like this is why I call them Republicrats. The only way they could be more factually centrist is to go farther left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm honestly pissed at progressive groups. The 2024 elections should have been a jaw dropping moment for them. Eight years of #resistance resulted not only in a Trump victory, but MAGA as a whole being more popular than ever.

Instead their response seems to simply be to deploy a tweaked version of the 2017 playbook with Elon as public enemy #1 instead of Trump. I'm extremely skeptical it's gonna work.

I feel that these groups suck all the oxygen out of the room, and prevent an effective opposition strategy from forming.

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