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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago

not only do you pay them to shove more adverts at you, they're giving a substantial chunk to chuds like rogan all the while stiffing the artists their service is built on.

nice fucking job.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago

I just got a "swipe right or left" ad for duo

thanks, spotify, for occasionally reminding me I'm single

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Just a reminder that Tidal is amazing, has higher quality audio, a real shuffle, daily playlists, doesn't shove podcasts in your face, pays artists more, and provides ways to import your playlists over 🩷 I also listen to some pretty obscure music and haven't had issues not finding songs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Looked at that and think it will be an option in the near future, but right now Raspotify and Connect are hard to beat.

Edit: Searching a bit more, it looks like Tidal Connect is actually a thing. I'll take a good look at switching when my Spotify plan runs out. I'll be happy to switch to a service that doesn't screw their artists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That repo is an amazing example of something so well documented as to how it works they completely neglected to have even a paragraph explaining what it really does and why I would want to use it.

As far as I can tell it’s a Spotify connect client which runs as a daemon so you probably need to control it remotely? Kinda like how AirPlay works on apple devices? Is that right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yea, I run hundreds of self-hosted projects, and I'm clueless.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Deleted spotify, now use Soundcloud and Tidal. Reminder soundcloud has by far the most music on it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'm just waiting for either Tidal or Qobuz to offer good non-English (Japanese) support sike... I tested both. Apps were solid themselves but I'd appreciate it if I don't have to try English, Japanese, romaji (Japanese phonetics) every time I search for something

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Last I'd used Tidal it was still glitchy, missing artists I fancy, with incorrect dates and covers for a number of other artists I like. I'm still on Spotify for now, but with ad-free clients on both my phone and laptop. Is Tidal any better than it was 4 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It's been super solid for me! They are constantly improving categorization, and they are always on top of reported issues. I absolutely love that they provide patch notes with every update!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm checking out Tidal right now. Is there a way to import the playlists that doesn't cost money?

When you say "a real shuffle" what do you mean?

So far the audio quality is noticeably better and I have both set to maximum quality. Only complaint so far is that they seem to combine artists of same or similar names. For example, it was tough to find Wolves without it confusing different artists of the same name. I found a metal core band from Milwaukee of the same name which I like, but I was looking for a band from the early 2000's from Massachusetts. Once I found them, Tidal lists other artists' albums under the more albums section.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

When I moved over a few years ago, there were a few different services that could migrate playlists. I did remember some having a cap that you had to pay to increase, but I believe I eventually found one that let me move them all for free.

One of the reasons I quit Spotify was that their shuffle seemed oddly weighted. It would try to detect songs that it thought I wanted to listen to and always prioritize those in the shuffle. Turning off its smart shuffle didn't seem to help either 🤷‍♀️ I do occasionally find artists with the same name grouped together, but this is something I've seen them addressing in their patch notes. They are really on top of reported issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah. I'm not a fan of their shuffle either. I sometimes want music I've never heard before. Supposedly their discover weekly playlist is what provides this but it's always full of covers of songs I already regularly listen to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had Spotify on shuffle once, and it played the same song twice in a row. On two separate occasions.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

aww it's not available in my region

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

That isn't an advert, it is a "promotion", gotcha!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

I guess they don't count their own ads

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

"Hello, spotify? I'd like to cancel.......well because you don't know what words mean."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Don't worry, if you switch to Duo the messages don't stop. They just change to "Upgrade now to a Family Plan!"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"So everyone in the couple can enjoy..."
But there's only two people, you said it's a couple???
Does this read weird to anyone else?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They're trying (and failing) to be cute. Like saying "all two of us". "everyone in the couple", because it's called Duo. Personally, if I had Spotify, this ad would be the last straw to make me cancel.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am so glad I swapped to downloading my music rather than streaming. Fuck Spotify and every other streaming service. Owning my music is more important to me than any level of "convenience" those services pretend to offer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Plus you can make it just as convenient by self-hosting your own streaming service from home!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just wish i could buy and use cd's still, the artists used to see more money and i got to use the music in whatever device i decided.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to pay for Spotify. One day, got an email saying "uwu, we're raising our prices again. Sowwyy 🥺👉👈". The same day I switched to YT after exporting my playlists. I cracked the YouTube Music app with Revanced. Corps will never get anything out of me again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Would have left Spotify a couple years ago if I could find an app with something like Spotify Connect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Is that the thing that randomly switched from my desktop to my phone in the middle of a song a dozen or so times yesterday for no apparent reason and with no interaction from me on either device? Yeah, uhh, I would very much like to find an app that doesn't do that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Use Spotube, a Spotify client that's available via F-Droid or it's official site

That's all. Enjoy free Spotify premium-like user experience. You can also log in with your already existing Spotify acc for convenience

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks mate !!! Thats a great app!! To be true lately a lot users share their apps, you guys give amazing solutions!

I dropped YouTube app and I use newpipe, now I can use spotube as a replacement to Spotify.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You know- mStream, Plex, Jellyfin, Lyrion, Yunohost and Navidrome are all free ;)

Join us! /c/selfhosted

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know what all of these are but surely it can't be at search some song and tap and listen?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Of course not. You need other software to rip your music from physical media, or potentially multiple other software to search and download them. You'll need additional software to host everything over the internet. You'll probably want a computer to act as a server. You'll very likely need a private VPN to be able to access it over the public internet. You'll need some networking knowledge to set everything up. Hope you're familiar with docker. And afterwards you'll have to manage everything yourself once they are up.

Even if you don't search for new music very often it's a lot of work. If you care about being able to discover new music then it's pretty bad. There's a reason music streaming exploded in popularity so quickly. This shit is not easy or convenient to self-host. At all. If you're already selfhosting a bunch of stuff, then it might be worth it to add this stack on top of your existing stuff. But absolutely not worth building anything from scratch just for this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I already self host and have some of those services, and do always on vpn. I just haven't found a reliable method to rip my Spotify playlists since the API went down. I used to just cron job it, so my plex was in sync and use plexamp on my phone.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

https://fmhy.pages.dev/audiopiracyguide

If you are able to give support to artists you listen to, try to find ways to give money to them directly without any corporation leeching most of the money.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Every other day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like it plays well with Spotify Connect?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What exactly is Spotify connect?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It allows any device to cast music to pretty much any other device that supports Spotify, whether via phone app, browser or Linux app. I have a couple of small computers connected to receivers in different rooms and can control the music playing on them from the attached PC itself or any other PC or phone.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

paying for music has to be made cringy again

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Apple Music doesn’t pull this shit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve used Spotify an exact total of one time. It was shit then, I imagine it’s still shit now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I stop paying for a sub when they went exclusive with rogan. Then deleted my account when they gave money and praise to trump. I'm trying to get out of as many things as I can that support the fascist us government

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Spotube and yt-dlp for me while directly supporting the artist through merch, physical media, or bandcamp.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'd switch if there was something like RVRB for Tidal or, better still, your own local music collection. Or if RVRB supported other platforms.

Seriously, that site has helped me find so much stuff I like, it's hard to let that go.

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