Wait... it's all mustard?
this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2025
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How? Like... literally how?
I grow kale and it looks nothing like the plant in the OP. It looks like a regular bunch of kale.
Or is this like "all 6 vegetables come from one main vegetable", kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.
kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.
This is what happened
No, it's cooler than that! All these vegetables are cultivars of the same species (Brassica oleracea). Citrus trees are different species with common origins.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus
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Artificial selection!
If you think that’s amazing - look up what bananas looked like before human cultivation. Basically any fruit or vegetable you eat is the product of centuries of humans carefully selecting what seeds to save and plant.
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Just like dog breeds look very distinct, but cranked up to eleven with horrible deformities. Imagine if we continued to breed chihuahuas to have bigger heads and smaller bodies until they are 90% head. Or breed a breed of hound to be smaller with increasingly bigger ears until it's 90% ears. They would still be dogs of the same species because they can procreate together.
Its exactly like that.
🔫🌼 Always has been.
cabbage, to be more accurate
And every one fucking delicious
People have some hate boner against Brussels sprouts, but damn - if you know how to prepare them, they're delicious.
Selective breeding does play a role but also how you prepare them. Just like other brassicae if you cook them for too long they start smelling bad, so you want to use high heat and relatively short cooking times.
For example. My go-to approach is to cut them into halves and pan-fry in lard. High fire. People claim it's delicious.
I mean, things fried in lard do usually come out delicious.
Right, when I was growing up, always steamed or boiled - absolute trash. Just throw them on a pan under the broiler with some oil and salt/pepper chefs kiss
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Look, anything pan fried with butter, salt, black pepper, bacon and a little white wine is going to taste great...
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I've had this discussion before, had the "proper way" of preparing them explained to me and made them according to these instructions. Turns out, I just don't like the taste. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Individual tastes are a thing, too. At least someone out there is bound to dislike even the most beloved dishes; the thing, for me, is how many people claim to hate Brussels sprouts, even if they deserve some leafy and greasy love.
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Wait, but I put mustard on my broccoli...
Yo dawg, I heard you like mustard...
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this meme has some truth in it, in that these six vegetables are all brassica oleracea. but, the factoid in the center of the meme is misleading: brassica oleracea can be many things but (despite brassicaceae being "the mustard and cabbage family") brassica oleracea is not typically called "wild mustard plant".
edit: toned down my refutation; i guess maybe it is sometimes 👀 but i think not really
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Except that it's not the wild mustard plant. It's the wild cabbage plant. Wild mustard is totally different genusv and species.
Srsly. What is this bullshit.
Does this mean I can put mustard on things instead of eating all these vegetables?
See, I like vegetables!
This is news to me, but I was always kind of onto cauliflower just being albino broccoli, so not too surprised there.
We eat like 2 plants. One is brassica mentioned above.
The other one is nightshade. In the nightshade family we find tomatos, aubergine, tobacco, peppers, physalis, potatoes and of course the extremely toxic bella-donna (deadly nightshade)
Just a small correction: you missed an "a" in bella-donna (bella donna means "beautiful woman" in Italian)
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ancient and medieval europeans went through some shit
Weird how mustard (the condiment) tastes so good yet the cultivars of this particular species all taste horrible to me.
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To all the veggie haters:
Broccoli recipe:
- Fry broccoli with paprika and small pieces of meat or tofu in a pan until brown.
- Add water and seasonings.
- Steam to desired hardness.
- Serve with rice or couscous.
Cauliflower recipe:
- Make brown butter by heating up butter and adding breadcrumbs to soak it up.
- Serve it on enough steamed cauliflower to justify the amount of brown butter you are about to eat.
Hard no. Extremely hard no. This is the kind of crap our parents would make and serve.
For anyone with taste buds, let's be abundantly clear on something: steaming vegetables is perhaps the WORST way to cook them.
Unless you are eating them raw, or using them as an ingredient in a larger dish, almost all vegetables should be roasted/grilled to bring out and caramelize their natural sugars. Steaming them strips away a lot of the nutrients and flavors, leaving you with tasteless mush. Like you're cooking the soul out of them and leaving only a sad memory of what they could have been.
Hard no. Extremely hard no. This is the kind of crap our parents would make and serve.
For anyone with taste buds, let's be abundantly clear on something: steaming vegetables is perhaps the WORST way to cook them.
I'm sorry your parents were terrible cooks. Steamed veggies can be very delicious what done right, and it's not that difficult to do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide
This is just patently false. Steaming vegetables preserves more nutrients than both boiling and grilling. Plus, anything caramelized has Acrylamide in it.
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mustard on the beat, yo
kale caul kohl kål
Even the etymological family is a mess. They all backtrack to Latin caulis stalk, stem, cabbage stem; but even in closely related language varieties they might mean different plant varieties, like
- Galician, general - col wild kale/cabbage/whatever, collards
- Galician, south - couva~couve kale
- Portuguese - couve kale
- Spanish - col cabbage
...and of course people had to reborrow the word from Latin to refer to stems in general, to make the thing even messier. (e.g. PT "caule" stem)
Yeah, it's wild how many times that root has been reborrowed for different vegetable names
Yeah, it’s wild how many times that root has been reborrowed for different vegetable names
The root is the same, but the stems and leaves are all different!
Wow, 7 bad flavors out of one plant. What a record
They're delicious if cooked properly. I'm a lazy bastard and just microwave steam my cauliflower and broccoli though.
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