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Summary

Former federal prosecutor Sara Levine, fired by Trump, warned on 60 Minutes that the Justice Department is "under attack."

Levine, who prosecuted January 6 rioters, said she was fired for upholding the law.

Legal expert Peter Keisler criticized Trump's pardons of Capitol rioters, arguing they signal that crimes committed in support of Trump's agenda may go unpunished.

These actions undermine the rule of law and discouraging accountability for political violence.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 127 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Legal expert Peter Keisler criticized Trump's pardons of Capitol rioters, arguing they signal that crimes committed in support of Trump's agenda may go unpunished.

Um, isn't that the main point why Trump did it?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

It's like the entire liberal world has been conditioned to act like the things that are very obviously happening may happen ... not right now though ... at some future unknown date ... so you don't need to worry about it really. Don't rock the boat and certainly don't miss work tomorrow... just continue consuming and hold tight while someone else presumably sorts it out.

It's like a civilization-wide bystander effect.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

Always have been:

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (18 children)

This is what pisses me off about all the people who kept talking about how the Democrats were failing to get voters engaged in 2024.

If the Dems weren't doing the job, what was keeping you from stepping up?

Its like there was a fire going on and people were complaining the firemen weren't doing enough instead of jumping in and helping.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Harris campaign spent a billion and a half dollars on "getting voters engaged" and she still lost anyway. All the phone-banking and door-knocking in the world can't overcome the fundamental problem of refusing to adopt policies the people actually want!

So please, explain to me exactly what the fuck kind of "stepping up" you expect randos from the Internet, who had no ability to affect the campaign's platform, to actually fucking do?!

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk, maybe voting against the dude who straight up said he would be a dictator and you'd never vote again?

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[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not a politician. I developed an entirely different set of skills. Throwing away my career at the potential of reskilling is absurd.

And Dems weren't doing their job. I'm tired of people pretending like that's acceptable. I canvass. I get people ready to vote. I do my part.

I can't even tell you the last time a Dem policy benefitted me directly. What I have in common with them really just boils down to them being the only opposition right now. I pushed Harris like we had to and I'll never forgive them for running such an unlovable candidate. They knew what they were doing. The second there's another serious option I'm gone. Dems complete lack of opposition makes them complicit in everything that's happening.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (13 children)

AOC and Omar have entered the chat.

If you don't like the Dems that are in power now, you can primary them. If we get another election.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 6 points 1 month ago (12 children)

How long until the dems have effective leadership putting people like AOC and Omar in the spotlight and building around them rather than keeping them on the fringes?

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Probably the part where I didn't receive over a billion dollars in donations to actually get media attention. A lot of people have been campaigning to get people to ditch the Democrats because they're controlled corporate stooges for the last few decades, I think you were shouting at them for supporting third parties at the time.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And they should have been shouted at. The current system does not allow for third party viability as disappointing as that is.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Uh-huh, and how is constantly voting for the lesser evil going for you? What did you seriously expect to happen? We'd just keep slipping towards fascism but never actually reach it?

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it the lesser evil if it's on the same team as the greater evil?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

BoTh siDes ARe thE Same?

How is that working out for you?

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Honestly, it's hard to fault politically disconnected people who feel that way. The democrats are just the ratchet strap that keeps us from going any further left while the republicans drag us farther right. The GOP also has a literal firehose of constant media drenching the working class while the democrats just suck on the corporate peepee. I voted for harris this time because it was the lesser evil but i am starting to understand how someone who doesn't pay attention winds up voting for trump.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Read up on how Hitler took power in the first place.

A lot of people hated him, but they hated other politicians more and decided that letting him have a go at it wouldn't be a bad thing.

If you thought a third party was going to come to the rescue in 2024 you have my abject sympathy.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A third party had no chance of coming to the rescue in 2024 because everyone has attacked third parties in the U.S. for at least the three decades I've been alive, and I'm pretty sure for another few decades before that.

Also, you're conveniently ignoring the economic conditions of the Weimar Republic that made the rise of Nazism in Germany an inevitability. Just like all the libs ignoring the economic conditions in the U.S. that led to the rise of Trumpism.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

So, we agree. There was no other option except Harris and people didn't vote for Harris because they decided it was more important to blame the Dems then fight the actual fascist.

But yes, I'm sure that the same folks who couldn't get Bernie nominated in 2016, 2020, and 2024 will become political savants now and organize a powerful third party in less than 24 months.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle. The problem is that the moderate libs have consistently shut down third party and leftist options for the last few decades. Since the Democrats haven't had any competition, they have abandoned their constituency, and now work exclusively for corporate interests. By constantly voting for the "lesser evil", you have allowed them to blossom into an evil that the average American cannot distinguish from fascism.

I'm not expecting anyone to organize anything. At this point, I'm just pulling up a chair to watch the collapse. But good job insulting the Bernie Bros who tried to pull you out of this downward spiral, it's good to know that the center will punch left no matter what.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

, I’m just pulling up a chair to watch the collapse.

Sounds like you have a pretty privileged position in the world.

Don't have to worry about educating kids, or grandparents losing social security, or anything else.

BTW, I was a Bernie bro who contributed to him three times. I got to watch that money do nothing because people like you were sitting, waiting for the collapse.

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[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My analogy is that it was like someone threw a molotov cocktail through your window, but you let the house burn down because the window didn't stop the bottle.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone's gonna be killed by one of these J6 yoyos. Could be a SC justice after a ruling that goes against Trump, could be one of those key people from the last administration that Trump quite openly dropped security details for.

Will Trump go the extra mile and pardon them? Will his party full of Christian Conservatives ignore their God's commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill" when the victim is a political opponent who they don't like? Of course they will.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least three of them have already been re-arrested for other crimes.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One was killed by the cops, too

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

To be fair, that may be one of the ones I was thinking of.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 93 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I need more than Half the states to declare that Trump is a national emergency, and then set legislation to limit all Federal Authority in state level Justice Matters AND mark federal government actions, laws, and executive orders as null/void or something like that. We have to take power away from the Federal Government if it can’t be checked and balanced.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That path is dangerous, too. It's currently what's allowing states to deny abortions and I bet it would eventually be used to re-legalize slavery.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Slavery is already legal in the US.

Why do you think we have 1/4 of the global prisoner population? Like, 1.9 million slaves are currently held in prisons in the US.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I knew I'd get this comment. And you're not wrong, that is the case. But I'm referring to it being fully legal and accepted. Like open-air slave market level.

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[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

At that point, civil war 3. Probably with non-south allies on the other side.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 month ago (5 children)

In no universe would a Democrat President even be allowed to joke about the things that Trump is doing in plain sight.

How long are you guys going to wait until doing something?

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember when Barack Obama wore a tan suit? Remember when he ordered a hamburger with spicy mustard?

If he had ignored federal judges' orders, the entire staff of Fox News would have had a stroke.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Always rules for thee, not for me

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

We won't do a thing beyond ball-less protests because we're either too afraid of the repercussions, too lazy to give up any sort of comfort or too in denial about the severity of what's happening. No one views themselves as complacent, but there are complacent people out there.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 month ago

The terrifying part happened at the election.

This was the expected part.

The next terrifying part is that we might not kick them out.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been terrified since early November

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

When idiots vote for a felon, they should expect that felon to destroy the system that might hold him accountable some day.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Like I said elsewhere, everyone is really just waiting for him to come after the federal judges who have been holding back his EOs. The DOJ is currently being torn apart, but he'll get there eventually.

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