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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Kinda flabbergasted it ranks that high.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 1 month ago

We just want to keep it on the funny sex number so we actually had to suck a little bit more when we rose to 68th.

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US contains some of the best cancer research centers in the world, most of which are non profits. On top of this you genuinely can buy the best care if you can afford it, as top talent across the world go to the US to get rich if they've lost all their morals.

It's just everyone except the super rich and people with rare cancers that might someday affect rich people that can't get care without bankruptcy and have to use enshittified hospitals.

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[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

If you have decent insurance, it's ok. The problem is it either ties you to your job and/or is very expensive. People fall through the cracks.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did he save it tho?
Nazi US seems pretty unsaved to me, right now 😌
Of course, this is a joke and I know you/he mean “he who trys saving his country..” and I know that is a Trump quote

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

😄 you are absolutely right, sorry!

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If US Health Insurance companies are so great at the service they provide, why don't they take their business internationally? All these other countries must be so exasperated with their useless, inadequate federal healthcare programs.

Oh, wait, they're not.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's kinda funny living in Japan. We are all legally required to carry health insurance. It's available (income-based) from the govt, though many companies provide it as well paying half or more. Most of us who grew up in the US are talking about how cheap it is and most of the Europeans and Canadians are talking about how expensive it is (often about the point-of-service cost (30% of bill for most, though much cheaper than prices in the US) though some also the insurance). We also have out-of-pocket max (monthly cap, I think), and spending over 100k in a year opens up tax deductions (think of that like $1000 in USD/EUR for how it feels to spend that; the exchange rates are obviously different).

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Canada is number 32. Maybe the US should become Canada's fourth territory. We should talk to Premier Trump about it.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

And as a Canadian, I hear Americans talking about how we wait so long for care.

We do, but not for anything that is life threatening.

I don't mind waiting for an x-ray for something routine if some kid needs an x-ray to figure out if his skull is cracked or something.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Rest assured, that's just rhetoric peddled by and for useful idiots to "justify" why things shouldn't change.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm an American and a regular appointment is still likely a couple months out because of insurance.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My response to wait times is to train more doctors, nurses and lab techs. Denying poorer workers from having access to healthcare so that wealthier people don't have to wait is cruel and a banal evil.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

oh yea, emergencies, cancer diagnosis usually doesnt wait that long in EU too, just regular appts. even in the states if your own "state subsidized healthcare, you can also be waiting months or even almost 6 months for a appt, secondly you will also encounter rude employees that just hangs up on you too. i was in an insurance based medical facility/hospitals, its barely occupied most of the time, so i think the insurance just like justfying the increasecost of the insurance by building unnecessary facilities, before 26, my previous insurance was doing just that and still doing to this day.

also some insurance in general are allergic to older people too, they price them out, they have no need to "drop people from thier insurance" , when they can just price them out, this also helps them skew results like denials or getting terminated from thier insurance.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

All good points.

I would, 100% of the time, rather live under a social triage of conditions, where those who have the most need, get the most and most immediate care. If I'm not going to die from my medical issues, I can wait.

From your description and what I understand of it, American medical triage is less about who needs the most care, and more about who has the most money.

I'm a first aid trained person. Changing the way people get triaged for what their issue is.... That's a good way to get people killed.

[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I vote for giving Luigi the Death Note

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[–] schizolol9@lemy.lol 13 points 1 month ago

Free Luigi!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's basically the worst of all the developed countries with some developing countries doing better than us.

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[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago
[–] eru@mouse.chitanda.moe 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Worx 5 points 1 month ago
[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago
[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

This is the truth. My aunt comes to my third world country to treat her teeth. And for her is cheaper to come, pay the plane, pay the treatment, stay some days and return, thant to pay the same treatment in the US

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He should have done something about it instead of throwing a tantrum with a deadly weapon.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Running for office, starting a competitive company, or just general political activism against the people who caused this problem, literally anything.

Here is the perspective: Luigi was the son of the multimillionaire owner of Mangione Family Enterprises. He had an Ivy League Education and a cushy tech job with 6 figure salary. He 3D printed a gun at home, took $20,000 cash to live off while on the run, and murdered a stranger.

Imagine how much good you could have done in his position, instead of throwing it all away.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

there's no evidence provided yet that it was even Luigi. I'm tired of seeing everyone talking about this like we know he did it. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

So? The criticism is with people celebrating whoever did do it. Whether it's actually him or not isn't really relevant to that.

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[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (119 children)

What did Brian Thompson do/fail to do that makes this statistic his fault, and for death to be the morally justified consequence?

Edit: I'll reframe this as a statement. Celebrating the murder of Brian Thompson and especially advocating for more acts like it is abhorrent behaviour.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 14 points 1 month ago (27 children)

You think none of the decisions of the CEO of UHC affected this statistic at all? I feel like there's a LOT of UNC policy that he was involved in that results in worse healthcare in the US, including but not limited to "AI" for denials.

I don't think we have a uniform moral calculus, but my personal one doesn't justify the death penalty in this case. I can imagine a moral calculus that does though: hours of excess suffering caused > expected lifespan = death penalty.

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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Yes. We are advocating for more acts. Because their acts have not changed. That's how cause and effect works.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Celebrating the murder of Brian Thompson and especially advocating for more acts like it is abhorrent behaviour.

No, it is not. The owning class must be pressured into respecting us more than profits. By any means necessary. The government and police will not stop mass social murder, so we must do what we can to save lives.

The only reason to avoid advocating these acts is that this style of PotD-like adventurism generally isn't a sustainable tactic, compared to the power of building a mass movement.

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[–] commander@lemmings.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Benefiting from a system that exists to hurt others so people like him can benefit from it.

I wish people like you weren't so eager to go to bat for your oppressors. Do you think Brian Thompson would ever ask about why someone did something to you that you didn't like? Or was he too busy having fun with your money?

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[–] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The insurance companies control our healthcare system. He controlled an insurance company. Get it yet?

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

You should also Luigi anyone you know who voted for Trump. They are directly responsible for everything currently happening and do not deserve to feel safe.

Edit: Sorry I have no sympathy/empathy for those that voted for Trump. They knew exactly what they were voting for and now we all have to pay for it. They don't care if people die as long as they get what they want. Fuck em.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't ask for things you won't do yourself, you look like a fool

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