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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Sadly true. Fuck the CDU and AfD. Nazi helpers and Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (4 children)

SPD and Grüne are helping the rise of fascism too even if it's not on purpose. Die Linke are the only ones in parliament actually working against it.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Wanting to leave NATO, withholding weapons from Ukraine and talking to Putin isn't exactly "working against" fascism. That's very much the Neville Chamberlain approach ... but even he came to his sense after the full scale invasion started. Can't say the same for die Linke.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (11 children)

NATO is a fascist organisation.
You Germs should know that since they incorporated plenty nazis in the organisation.

https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2019/04/04/natos-secret-nazi-past

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

shouldn't you be beating up anti-genocide protesters while doing the Musk salute?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We're having all the fun ridiculing all the fash and the lib enablers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Good for you .world isn't as restrictive as the tankie triade

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Don't care, I'd rather live under the neolib European governments any day than a fascist Russian shithole. It's not even a difficult choice. It's not like there's some leftist utopia as an alternative. The neolibs don't murder gay people and don't decriminalize violence against women as a state policy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Campists these days are so funny, because now they're getting all their opinions from the US state department.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

NATO is liberal and that comes with all of the problems of liberals but in what ways has it functioned as a fascist organisation?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bold statement. Do you have any examples? I would disagree, but maybe I just don't quite understand what you meant.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (9 children)

SPD is just standing by not doing anything (except being corrupt), basically silent complicity. The greens are also not clearly positioning themselves against the anti immigrant hatred, but they are still doing much better than the rest imo.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Considering that Putin is the biggest fascist threat for all of Europe, your statement is laughable. The Left agree that Putin is doing bad things in Ukraine and other countries but their message is that the domestic social net is more important than Europe's survival and all weapon deliveries must stop. Let's talk instead.

If policies were up to them, they'd be helping fascism almost as much as outright Putin sheep

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did they make a coalition with the new nazi party?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Even if they don´t officially, they might just push through all the right wing policies with the votes of AfD.

The next weeks and months will show.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"At least we're not as racist as the US!"

"...yet."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

But we are working on yourself to catch up with the US.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I was told by a German person on this very site that they'd never go right wing again because of a unique type of centrism in the country that's hugely popular and that my tiny American brain couldn't comprehend. Oh well, guess that's just another common centrist L.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

To be fair, Germany is still far better off than the US or some other European countries. In the national election that just happened, the far right party won about 20% of the votes and the (traditionally) centre-right party won while moving further to the right. That said they're still about as far right as the Democrats in the US.

It's just that Germans are on alert about the rise of fascism and are raising the alarm bells now, before the fascist actually take over control.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

to be fair, this is the image the center parties have and upkeep. I, as a farly left person, already question if this seperation to right extremism will still be upheld in 4 years. Our Center-right partie CDU falls more and more for populist rethoric, which reminds me of the republicans or the toris.

So what you have been told is not wrong per se. But there is a significant amount of people in the country and politicans in the parlaiment, that argue the seperation between right exremism and center parties did already collaps behind the scenes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't want to start a war or anything but as someone from neither the USA or Europe, Europeans online often come across as even more exceptionalist than Americans, despite the reputation to the contrary. Because, at least in leftish or liberal spaces, no one is more ready to shit on and call out the USA than Americans. And I don't mean they're anti-American or whatever, they just want their country to be better, so they call out all the shit.

Europeans on the other hand often seem more proud and / or defensive about their countries. Maybe they speak openly in their own country specific communities but I don't get the sense that they're as open and friendly to outside input or criticism as the Americans are.

The way I see it, we're all hooked onto the same stream of memes and billionaire owned news sources everywhere across the world. So thinking we're immune to being overtaken by dangerous alt right nonsense and ignoring all the obvious signs would be a very stupid move, wherever you are. If they're not taking this seriously, they're doing exactly what the Americans did and have done since 2016.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Centrism is just seeing an elephant about to step on a mouse and trying to make a compromise.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

"Centrists stand for the status quo, they would never change for the worse."

"What if the worse is the status quo and normalized with decades of propaganda and brainwashing?"

"That could never happen!"

Average centrist L.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fascism is really good for the rich to get richer

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sorry - is the Reese’s mug a reference to something I should know about?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Former FCC chairman and piece of shit, Ajit Pai used to have a cartoonishly large Reese's mug. Could be an old picture and all of the text has been changed.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

There are more fucking neo-Nazis in the USA than in Germany. The shit AfD voters come from the Oklahoma and Mississippi of Germany, Thuringia and Saxony.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Definitely not true. It sounds like you are German and if so it is pretty sad how little you keep up with your own election even though it happened just a few days ago. There are more AfD voters in eastern Germany but most Bundesländer have >18% AfD votes.
People tend to forget that Hitlers NSDAP only needed 18% in 1930 and a rigged election in 1933 to completely take over the country.
Coping doesnt get us anywhere. Its not always "the others" that vote far-right. Its the whole country, the educated just as well as the uneducated, the poor and the rich. Almost everyone has family members or friends that vote far-right and we need to talk to them, try to understand their motives and make them understand that AfD wants to make everything they fear 10 times worse.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The shit AfD voters come from the Oklahoma and Mississippi of Germany, Thuringia and Saxony.

That's only kinda true. The east has way more Nazis, but just because the AfD is stronger there with 32% of the votes, doesn't change the fact that 18% of West German voters voted for them too.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

CEO ~~of racism~~

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Germany was never truly de-Nazified.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seeing as some left to Argentina or were recruited by the US and the USSR for NASA, no they never were de-Nazified, they just wiped the blood off their name tags.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yep, prominent Nazis were even given leadership of NATO, such as Adolf Heusinger. The Soviets ended up being far harsher to the Nazis, hence why so many fled to Latin America to get away. Makes sense, considering the absolute devastation the Nazis wrought on the Soviets and the 20 million Soviet lives the Nazis took, and how comparatively little the US saw, as the 2 major powers emerging from World War II.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

"No you can't bring up that NATO had actual Nazis with blood on their hands as leaders! Especially ones that tried to make a new Waffen-SS in the 50s! That's unfair!"

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Once upon a time, I told a German that if their country goes fascist, we won't spare them a second time. That was wrong and naive of me to say, but not too far off. There won't be a rebuilding if that happens.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Only problem is that the entire worlds governments are going fascist. There won't be anyone with enough power to fight them.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Oh Im pretty sure we will be spared by the country that went full fascist just a few weeks ago. Thats definitely not the part Im worried about.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile on Ich ~~eil~~ iel:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So many people have this misreading: it's ich_iel (im echten Leben, in reallife) not eil

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