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Don't want to know how many tries it took to get that combo off

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

I have mixed feelings about stuff like this. On the one hand, Magic has intricate rules, and thousands of different cards, and as someone familiar with those rules and cards, it's always cool to see them come together to do something impressive.

On the other hand, this is a big part of why I don't play Timeless, or other high-powered formats. They're too fast to be fun. You might say "this almost never happens", but IMO it should literally never happen. Zero point zero zero percent of games should ever end on turn 1. I play Standard and I don't even like that games sometimes end on turn 3. Anytime a game ends and one player didn't get to do anything fun in it, it's a symptom of a design failure. If there were a board game where that happened, you wouldn't be able to get anybody to play it with you. Why we tolerate it in Magic is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I have a lot of thoughts on this but I'll keep it crazy short (lol).

First, that was incredible and I totally felt his excitement the whole time. However, what am I watching! Timeless has effectively now become Yugioh, and it's not even a joke, that's what Yugioh game play is like.

I started out really interested in Timeless as a format, but this is what you get when you take free interaction out of Legacy. It's a joke format to me right now, and adding Chrome Mox makes it unplayable. I think it was unplayable before with the prevalence of combo decks, but this is truly something else. This guy won the game on the opponent's upkeep without any lands in hand or in play...

I don't think Wizards gives a shit really, they don't care about 60 card constructed at all imo, but I can't seem them adding Force of Negation in 2025 when it was actually needed in 2024. I'm very curious to know how big that Timeless playerbase is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

This reminds me of the first time I ever saw Magic. I was hosting a very small convention at Georgia Tech (Techwood Con, Woo!), and on the last day, two different dudes showed asking if anyone had any Magic cards for sale. Only a few of us even knew what they were talking about. Turns out they were specifically hoping to buy any of what we now call the power 9. And they of course knew each other, since they were both traveling all over Georgia hoping to find & buy these specific cards.

Since the day was a bust for them, they grabbed a table and started playing each other. Keep in mind, this was Alpha/Beta timeframe, the rules were still very loose, we were years away from a restricted list. They each had a 40 card deck with pretty much nothing but Mox's for mana. Each one of them would draw, win the game on their opening turn, and then start a new game where the other guy would go first and also win on his opening turn. They went back and forth like this until one of them failed to win on their opening draw.

That being my very first introduction to Magic, I totally understand and appreciate why we have rules in place to slow the game down. But there was no denying that these two dudes were having fun. So, no shade at folks who like to play at that power level, it's just not the reason I choose to shuffle up & play. I'm kinda glad we have so many different variations of Magic available, so that everyone can find the one that's right for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Must've been super fun for the opponent /s

One of the comments said that he played against the TurnOne dude 3 times, who just conceded the games after 4x or 5x mulligans.