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The Americans chose, or allowed their opponents to choose him. The voters own all of the next 4 years.
But yes, when was the last time inaction in protest worked?
What happens in 4 years? I’d be surprised if there was another election for a while.
They'll have an election. You just won't be allowed to vote against the glorious leader.
Or a marginally less cynical take, targeted voter surpression will mean that only republicans get elected president. So in four years they'll get president Vance.
It'll be sooner, I think.
How does that work in US politics? Can Congress raise a vote of no confidence?
Their process is more complicated.
For congress to remove Trump first the house needs to vote with a 50% majority to impeach Trump for “Treason, bribery, or high crimes” the house does get to decide if something Trump has done meets that bar.
Then the senate needs to decide to have a trial not a criminal or civil trial, but a trial to decide of Trump should be removed from office.
Then the house gets to present its case proving the crime, then if the senate votes with a 2/3rds majority to convict, Trump would e removed from office, and barred from any future government office. If convicted, VP Vance would become the president until the next election.
Impeachment is a remedial process, not a punitive one, it can only remove Trump from office it can’t punish him for his crimes, though he may face a separate criminal trial for the same crime at that point.
So, remember how a few months ago, the South Korean president and defense minister declared martial law and tried to openly stage a military coup?
I expect that to happen here. Congress won’t do shit about it - they’ll lean into it, because the “opposition” has all the backbone of a sea cucumber, and the GOP congresspersons have either drunk the kool-aid, or (like the “opposition”) have been scared into compliance.
And I expect the insurrection act to be invoked (which lets the president deputize more or less whoever he wants… so, proud boys et al will be the new brownshirts). And I don’t think many people understand how much of a real threat those wingnut militias are. They’ve got a LOT more guerrilla/resistance-cell-type organization than most realize. It’s one of the reasons I’m so deeply concerned about this whole shitshow. And one of his first act was to pardon a few thousand people, a lot of whom were involved in or sympathetic to those militias, so he’s got died-hard followers in that crowd. Like, “I won’t ever question your orders” die hard. He’s made himself into a very literal savior figure for them.
Discounting your allies here in the states will only help Trump. Good job, Trump and Vance approved of this message
I'm serious. They love you for this. They love that you said this. Dismissing the dissenters here in the States is a great fascist tactic.
Thanks. Kudos to you!!
As someone in the US living in a very progressive district, the general vibe of Democratic voters is what we should have gotten 8 years ago and even now I still get people saying we need to be more moderate and reach across the aisle.
There is nothing for us across the aisle. Without a fundamental rework of the minority party we just end up back here 10-15 years later because fundamental issues aren't solved and miserable people are easier to sell racist exploitative policies too. If you are comfortable and secure you're more likely to support helping others without worrying about it putting you on the streets.
I held my nose and voted blue no matter who, but there needs to be some consequences to supporting genocide. If Democratic leaders are going to hide behind bureaucracy then we need to go around it or we're on the hook for whatever human rights abuses are done in our name.
Oh, absolutely. I'm not defending America. Nobody should trust us at this point. Our country is currently completely broken.
But there are at least two major ways to see countries like ours that have evil leadership... You can blame the government and those that empower it, or you can blanket-blame all of the people that live there.
If you blame the people, and it catches on, then you end up dehumanizing an entire segment of humanity. It's not unlike being racist, ableist, or sexist. You're stripping individuality from an entire group, and applying preconceived principals to them as a whole.
America is a divided nation. Trump isn't just harming our allies, and helping our enemies... He's also first and foremost viciously attacking Americans and doing his best to strip away every freedom we have that might challenge him.
This is a man that's out to destroy America, and to disrupt the strength of those who oppose Putin. The best way for him to achieve his goal is to get all of us at one another's throats. The more petty, the better - that's Trump's bread and butter. A divided world is easier to conquer, just like our nation.
We can either stand together against tyranny as humans, or fall divided on our swords of ignorance and nationalism.
Jesus Murphy, it isn’t dehumanizing it’s telling you you aren’t working hard enough or smart enough to fucking fix it, because no one else can.
Here’s how it works:
You live in a country that has declared war on a much smaller neighbour. (Sure, for now it’s just economic, but cf. Warren Buffet.)
The victims of the aggression from your region are under no obligation to investigate your personal innocence in the matter.
If you are an ally, the responsibility to demonstrate that is entirely yours. Also, the bar is naturally high, as your fascist government has repeatedly threatened our sovereignty and territory.
So suck it up and read up on Denmark or France in 1940.
If you see every American as your enemy, then you will eventually create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I'm not willing to be manipulated by an orange idiot, but hey, you do you.
We get it. Bring on the pain. Seriously. Fuck Trump.
If we’re truly a government “of the people, by the people, and for the people” then we did it to ourselves.
If we’re not that then we should “dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another”
It’s on ourselves. It sucks but here we are….
We've been railroaded if not cheated every step of the way. It's not our fault, though it is our responsibility
That bit makes more sense when you factor in Scotus making corporations people.
Komrad! Is that you?
Thank you for suggesting the dismantling of the US. This us a great suggestion!!1!
Good thing Trump has 100% support in the US, and he didn't fall short of 50% of the vote!
Baiting people here doesn’t do anything. Go fix it FFS.
If Trump backs down on the tariffs, Canada should only back down halfway. Make it clear there are permanent consequences every time he fucks with the world economy on a whim.
It's not an optional strategy even though it feels like it should be. With this kind of animal you either go tit for tat or scorched earth.
We get it. By all means, Trudeau, bring the pain. Show America there are consequences. If you don’t, this will happen again. And again. And again.
Not really "our government". Trump has chosen to do this.
It is your government. This is your head of state and the head of the US government weilding power that once belonged to Congress but ceeded to the executive branch about a hundred years ago. This man represents you.
I understand it is uncomfortable. That you wish it wasn't so I get it... But Do not diminish this fact because these are the stakes. He is your, I repeat Your, Government. Do not wash your hands of him acting as he does because in your silence and denial he still acts on your behalf and you need so much more than silence and denial.
Stop trying to be so edgy, asshole. I didn't ask for this, and basically nobody else on Lemmy did either simply based on user demographics. Even younger-middle-aged people have only been eligible to vote in a handful of presidential elections, and we're fighting decades of gerrymandering, bribery, greed, and billions of dollars in corporate money propaganda campaigns. Basically all there is for me to do is vote at the polls and put my money where my mouth is, which I'm already doing. I'm not going to go out and riot and be sent to jail so I can lose everything because Walmart thought Trump would yield another half a percent to their stock prices.
When something comes up that I can do, I'll join in, but I'm not going to have randos berate me for BS I never asked for.
Well quite frankly nobody asked for this but we have it and we're not the first fucking generation to have to put aome skin on the line to make the place we live habitable after everything goes to shit. If you think all you can do is wait to cash your ballot or wave a sign then I am speaking to you. It's time to organize better and move because it is only going to get worse from here.
You are free to ignore this. You are free to go quietly. However keep your destructive apathy to yourself. More of us have to look apathy and personal disenfranchisement from the system in the eye and see it as the weight that stops any of this from ever getting better.
There will never be anything that convinces someone like you to take action.
Yes, be more direct and be human. Explaining thing like “ETMI5” will get your point/message across and be understood. Like others have said, if we, the US, back down, Canada should only roll back half way after a certain period of time. We have to learn our lesson. The president is being an uneducated child and he represents us, we should be treated like a child. We all learned a lesson before and we lived and learn. Time to do so again. Turn up the heat!
We know.
Is there a website that hosts the video and actually works?
It's got too high of a tariff to be served to you.
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it's democracy, it's written in the name. i remember a college professor constantly on about the need for a constitutional convention, wrote a book or some shit.
I was like, you know the crazies will consume any such convention, right?
challenging him kinda fucked it up but i was not wrong.