I'm American and boycotting by moving to Sweden lol
this post was submitted on 08 Mar 2025
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I'd love to move to Sweden. Any advice on how to move out there?
Live with the crushing despair of having a tech job that provides no real value long enough to have a degrees worth of money and living expenses then get on a student visa, is what I'm attempting anyway idk probably there are easier options
Fair enough. I'm sorry to hear all that. I'm lucky enough to have a good tech job, but I'd love to have a good tech job in Sweden instead of here in the US.
Around 90% of Swedes speak English and tech jobs are often done in English, from what I've heard. You could potentially get a work visa
If any Swedes are here, I’m American and I support this idea. It’s a necessary and proper response to an absolutely insane government, voted into power by people divorced from reality. I genuinely welcome your efforts to reintroduce it to my imbecillic countrymen.
I am also American and approve of this.
From someone that is in Sweden; it’s not as good as you might think it is. Sweden has together with the rest of the European countries started to militarize aggressively but without any factual threat. There is no talk about deescalation and focus on resolving the Ukraine war with diplomacy. Jeffrey Sachs among many prominent intellectual geopoliticians have long advocated for a peaceful solution. Even though USA has started dialogue with Russia, the European Commission is hellbent with to continue sponsoring a proxy war.
There IS a factual threat. There should NOT be de-escalation in Ukraine. The way forward is through, not retreat, not capitulation to an expansionist despot. Do not use the US as a positive example here - that’s an insult to sane Americans as well as your fellow Europeans. You can be better than that.
Only one country has attacked Finland in the last 100 years and it wasn’t Sweden. And that country did it TWICE.
That’s why we militarise.
The only way to de-escalate with Russia is to beat them so hard that they surrender.
Sorry my friend, but if you believe there's a peaceful solution, you're either fooling yourself, or you're a Russian plant.
Russia needs to be attacked outright by Europe. They have already subverted the American government without even firing a shot. You bet your ass they have the same plan for us.
The only peaceful solution in the Russian invasion of Ukraine is if Russia leaves Ukraine. That's the ONLY peaceful solution. And that's not bloody likely to happen.
Anything else needs a militarized Europe.
The peaceful solution is apparently total capitulation and appeasement to a country that seems bent on expansion. How stupid do you have to be to think it ends at Donetsk? The willful ignorance of history by every idiot that believes Putin "just wants peace" after repeatedly invading a country they had a peace accord with after the Cold War is astounding.
Fucking morons. With the big orange moron prominently selling out NATO at every opportunity, and another moron trying to buy elections in Europe to facilitate more moronic activity that's going to lead to another war in Europe. And still there's idiots that support this shit because there's "too many immigrants let in" so they can have actual taxpayers funding their retirements since they don't have kids themselves to keep the demographics up.
Incredibly weird thing to say with Russia just having spent around 2 decades routinely violating our airspace at Gotland, and with them quite literally cutting up our undersea cables in the Baltic on a weekly basis.
It's no use, people here are cheering for increased militarization and to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. Any other approach is labeled as sympathy for Russia.
I beleive the Ukrainian government said something along the lines of "we're willing to negotiate as long as there are assurances of support should Russia resume invading" and were told they would get no auch assurance from the US....
So is your positon
a) european countries should put boots on the ground
b) a country should stop their defence with no 3rd party guarantees of protection should promises get broken
c) something else?
c) Ukraine should be given such assurances of protection.
From what I've seen, the US and Europe have been content with just throwing money/military equipment at Ukraine to use as a drain on Russia's resources, but there has been no support beyond that. Even with the billions that Biden pledged to Ukraine, there were a number of key instances where Ukraine asked for permission to use those weapons to strike at critical Russian infrastructure and they were denied. The impression I get is that Ukraine is being used by the west to stick it to a geopolitical rival with no regard for actual peace.
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I'm American and I'm boycotting the hell out of it too. Supporting my neighborhood businesses.
Don't want to be a negative nelly, but Sweden is probably same as Finland. You don't see much US products at consumer lever and if you do, they are definately not essentials. Usually they are on the exotics section i.e. candy and soda.
But there are lots of American companies like McDonald's (Hesburger ftw)
Most of those just work with licences and the products are not made in US. You are not hurting US business by boycotting them, only local entrepreneurs. In US they'll still get their licence fees.
In Finland McDonalds burger ingredients come from Europe. Beef patties come from East-Europe. Hesburger is the same and their claim on local ingredients is bullshit. Only the bun and possibly fries might be locally produced.
In McDonalds the vegetarian pattie come from US. Those are unhealthy ultraprocessed food and due to logistical distances they are an ecological nightmare. You shouldn't be eating those anyway.
Same with Coke and Pepsi. They are produced by local companies with licence. If you gave somebody here a US made soda they would be wierded out. Due to agricultural reasons US uses corn syrup to sweeten everything and European taste finds that really funky.
McD is on a franchising model. Boycotting them in Finland hurts the Finnish entrepreneur more than the Mothership in the US.
Coke and others are also manufactured in Finland, with a license.
There is this tiny “America” shelf in the grocery store I’m boycotting tho 😀
The license gets paid to the main company, and hence not buying from their brands indirectly will hurt said brands, at least in the long term.
What about products from companies that are owned by US companies, though? e.g. Kraft, Mondelez. They own a lot of regional brands, such as Germany's Milka.
You can sure try, but usually those are huge international conglomerates that are paying taxes all over the world (or avoiding them). If you boycott the daughter company of a daughter company, it wouldn't even tickle the head office.
That would also require research and keeping lists. That's a bit above your average person willing to boycott. You'll be stuck with few hard core activists.
That's why it is so hard boycott the giants that owned companies that remained in Russia after the invasion. People were nice and made active lists on the Internet and even Ukraine had one, but they were really sketchy about the nature of the affiliation.
Title doesn't seem to be doing this justice -- I don't think a group called "boykot varer fra USA" is Swedish, as that looks like Danish to me.
So I'd guess that this is happening in Denmark as well.
Does anyone know of any of these groups emerging in the anglosphere outside of Canada? Would be interested to see if there's one in my country but I don't have facebook
Edit: verer -> varer
The first group in the link is Danish and the second group is Swedish. They have the same name in different languages.
Yeah, thats what I thought
I can tell you with 100% certainty that the group name you wrote isn't Danish. Whether it's Swedish or not, I'm not sure, but there you go
it's 100% not swedish.
Huh? That is not what the name of the group is. From my limited knowledge what YOU wrote doesnt make sense in any nordic language not just swedish. In swedish its what the article says and in danish its not verer if im right(i dont speak any danish tho so dont quote me)
Yeah sorry typo, in the article it says varer. My point stands that this is not a phenomenon limited to sweden
This is a sentiment that is just generally garnering traction in Europe as a whole I think.
I don't even think it's about hurting the US/Trump as much as people just have a renewed interest to support "local" business as a result of recent events.
laughs as an American with Swedish grandparents