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Manufacturers are slowly starting to listen to what car journalists and owners have been complaining about for almost a decade: Cramming all the car’s functions into a touchscreen is an inferior solution to having dedicated physical controls for key tasks.

Among the manufacturers known to be switching back to buttons is Volkswagen, whose latest vehicles have gone touch-control-crazy with functions either buried inside a touchscreen menu or relocated to an annoying haptic feedback panel.

We’ve known for a while that Volkswagen was considering putting back some buttons in its cars, but the manufacturer never officially acknowledged this. Now VW’s design boss, Andreas Mindt, has admitted to Autocar that this approach was a mistake and that the automaker is backtracking on this trend.

“From the ID.2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions—the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light—below the screen,” Mindt told Autocar. He added, “They will be in every car that we make from now on. We will never, ever make this mistake anymore. On the steering wheel, we will have physical buttons. No guessing anymore. There's feedback, it's real, and people love this. Honestly, it's a car. It's not a phone.”

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Great. Do away with the unnecessary telemetry next.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I used to work with big companies collecting IoT data. 90% were collecting telemetry without knowing why. Or having business goals they could easily achieve in other ways, without hoovering everything and violating our privacy.

The rest were doing it so they could sell it to data brokers and make money.

None of them were trying to push privacy as a competitive advantage.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

None of them were trying to push privacy as a competitive advantage.

This is why I don't have a new car. I'm hoping I get one where I have access to my own data (in eg. Home Assistant), and the manufacturer doesn't.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's so weird how not a single person here can just say "cool, this is good".

Sometimes things can just be good.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trust is earned, and automakers have done nothing but the opposite for an entire lifetime. There’s a reason everyone was so desperate for Tesla to be the little guy rebel. It didn’t work out though :(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, but a corporation complying with the law is sadly what passes for good news in the US these days.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Yes, but this is not one of those times.

Imagine someone poops on your doorstep, and then removes half of it.

You can say it's good that they removed some of it, but that's probably not the point you would want to make.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The thing the vast majority doesn't care about and that doesn't prevent them from buying cars and that you'll have to live with unless you just keep driving your old car forever?

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nothing to do with the euroNCAP guidance that came out earlier in the year, of course.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah I'm sure that carmakers being forced to do this only factored in a little bit.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve been assured that tHe MaRkEt will solve everything, though!

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Great, now unfuck the car I already have

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Would be hilarious if they recalled them and superglued buttons over the touchscreen interface.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Step 1: Make insanely stupid design decision to save $2

Step 2: Sell reversal as an upgrade

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago

Glad they return to the old proven ways. It’s so much safer to have proper buttons and dials.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Now wait a second! Hold on! Let's get one thing straight here......

.......buttons should also return to phones.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I'd settle for reasonable ports

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bring back the Blackberry.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This will be another nice side effect of Tesla shitting the bed. They were the ones that started this trend and now that they are out of fashion, it will become unfashionable again.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (17 children)

honestly, I'm all for buttons on phones too, I miss my sideout keyboard.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whoever thought touchscreens were a good idea for a console needs to be shot

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

They are grat for things that benwfit from havibg flexible touch anywhere interaction like maps.

They suck for anything you want to touch without looking away from the road, like temp controls.

Honda still including buttons and knobs for climate controls was a huge factor for my last purchase. A few brands were instantly rejected because they had climate controls in the touch screen and I had already hated that experience from rentals and my in law's cars.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah you should make the steering wheel also a touchscreen, that would be smart. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Step 1: put in touchscreens Step 2: touchscreens good because = smart Step 3: ... Step 4: Profit?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Swipe left to go left. Swipe right to go right. Pinch to accelerate. Say in a clear voice "Please begin braking" to decelerate.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

The world is healing

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Touch screens in cars has always been a fuckin' stupid idea, and I say that with the sincerest hope that nobody died because they had to look at the touchscreen to know where to tap to change the radio station because commercials came on

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone has died due to a touchscreen. A woman had a Tesla which you put in park forwards or reverse with a touchscreen. She’d always had trouble with it and got it wrong and reversed into a pond. That meant the power went out so she couldn’t open that door. To get to the emergency escape handle you have to remove the speakers in the doors. So she drowned.

The kicker? Her husband was a millionaire and he immediately put out a statement absolving Tesla and musk from any wrongdoing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Billionaires, both of them, I think.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

It's incredible it took them this long, considering how obvious it is. But good - it's nice to see at least one thing getting less and not more shitty for once, however tiny.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I dare say that that part of the reason behind this decision is that they are also required to meet safety standards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

No it's the only reason they are coming back, if they cared they wouldn't have got ridden of the buttons in the first place

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is not only safety - stupid screen is eating the battery for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The power consumption of a tablet is next to nothing compared to the power it takes to move an EV.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

The screen consumes orders of magnitude less energy than what it takes to move the car. It's not even worth taking into account.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's Stellantis. It's the same company that's building cards that are now showing ads when the car stops at a red light.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Thank you!

(Though, to be fair, I'm not sure how much they deserve to be thanked for undoing a change that should never have been made in the first place.)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

But why can we not have button phones as well? I miss tactile feedback.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Finally saw a VW Buzz on the streets- I fell in love instantly. Not sure of the specs but I think she's mighty pretty and it makes me want to load up my band and do a cross country trip with a fun montage sequence.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hyundai and now VW? Who's next?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Most of them, probably. It's a new requirement in EU to get 5/5 stars safety rating.

That's also why it's specifically 5 features - that's the bare minimum.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Good. My air con controls are actual buttons and I can use them without looking at them. But literally everything else in the car is controlled by a touch screen that you have to look at to see what you’re doing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is incredible news because that means my future GTI will have buttons.

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