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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

or, adopt them as pets as a graduation present

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, if there is no need to collect tissues or anything

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm guessing those infected or mutated in ways harmful aren't allowed?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Usually, if the mouse is infected or mutated in a given manner, its innards would need to be removed and studied, to determine what effects the mutation/infection had on them. This kills the mouse.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This kills the mouse.

Couldn't they just put them back?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Nah it’s like how if you touch A baby bird it’s mom won’t take it back, the body rejects the insidey bits when it has human funk on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For some reason, I was under the impression not all infected mice were actually studied. Thanks so much for your kind reply.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's still a suffering animal, so we should get the most data we can out of every specimen. That should minimize the total amount of mice being used.

Also only studying some mice can lead to biased results. Iirc in the pace trial participants who dropped out because the intervention worsened their condition where not included in the end result. With rats the researchers could just chose the healthiest ones and just claim they selected randomly.

Rant:

The pace trial was a horrible study on a chronic disease that was conducted by the british health system with the goal of denying care.
The trial also had other systematic flaws like having a laxer definition of healthy at the end of the trial that at the beginning, meaning people who where sick enough to participate would be declared cured at the end even if nothing changed.
This study is still used to denie people's lived experience and just call them lazy.
I don't have a personal connection to any of this, but learning about it made me angry enough, that I must share this knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I do wish humans could find a humane way to do research in general. Thank you for sharing this. It's a good reminder that life suffers and dies so we can live and I feel it would become us to remember that, for everything we consume.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, in my opinion skinny pigs have been mutated in a harmful way, just not as a result of whatever tests they were subjected to. But if you have a pet scrotum, you can knit it little sweaters so it isn't constantly shivering

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

😂 Forgot to add "for humans."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not in the EU I'm pretty sure

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My sister did, you just need approval from some government offices so you don't get mice that've had rabies-ebola-smallpox-anthrax tested on them getting out

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Kill-joy bureaucrats...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Im in the EU, and quite a few of the biology students had labrats as pets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh shit forreal? I used to work in the NL and there it wasn't allowed. You couldn't even had rodents as pets because the possible dangers of contamination. I thought it was an EU thing actually, but maybe it's just NL.

Edit: not necessarily and EU thing but animal/test dependent actually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It probably depends on what they were used for. I'm dutch too, but I did chemistry and civil engineering so I never used animals myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Oh, yeah I was looking it up, and I think it might be just the general CCD protocols in our institution which al involve neuroscience, and those specifically are not up for adoption ,(couldnt find if this actually was from an EU thing, but prolly depends on the type of animal and intervention).

And actually makes total sense. Some the relatively chil work in Wageningen with pets als falls under animal testing but it would feel wrong in those, mild cases.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Depending on the study, yes.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Difficult to admit yeah, but the lab mouse had an incredible CV in medicine

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Unrealistic, labs use skinny pigs for more efficient sampling

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I clicked because the picture was cute. Could the text be any more difficult to parse?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

"This is I, when the attractive biochemistry student tickles me in the stomach. Unbeknownst to me, I will be later killed by her as part of her research."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I thought the 10/10 was how good of a student she is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Tks 4 expl8/10ning it (to me)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

HOT GRAD STUDENT DOING MOUSE RESEARCH TICKLES MOUSE TO MAKE IT HAPPY THEN CUTS ITS HEAD OFF OR KILLS IT IN A GAS CHAMBER AFTER USING THE MOUSE TO COLLECT DATA FOR HER RESEARCH CAUSE THATZ WHAT WE DO