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How do Democrats get their mojo back? Definitely not by doing what California Governor Gavin Newsom done did! Which was to bring racist, antisemitic, oppressed-by-sign-language, short-pants wearing human Adobe pinch tool Charlie Kirk onto the first episode of his new podcast, and lap up Kirk’s advice to hop on the hateful, idiotic “banning transgender girls and women from sports” train with no pushback. And THEN inviting old three-shirts Steve Bannon on for a klatch about “populism” on his show, too, where they chatted it up in comrade-to-comrade tones, and Newsom politely did not push back as Bannon insisted Donald Trump won the 2020 election.

Watch if you like groaning JESUS CHRIST WHY ARE YOU SO CHATTY WITH THAT CRIMINAL at your screen. [link]

Unshockingly, a follow-up poll after Newsom’s Charlie Kirk interview found that people really did not respond well to the supplication, and it sank Newsom’s favorability by a whopping 10 points. Surprise, surprise, the Republicans who already hated him him still hate him; Democrats were disgusted, and respondents from both parties wondered why he was podcasting at all instead of, like, doing his job as governor, a job he’s still supposed to be working at for another year until term limits kick him out.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

He is prepping for his conservative debut, isn't he.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

We're just discovering how many politicians are unprincipled enough to think, "Fascism's where it's at? OK, I'll be a fascist then."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

anybody who was watching already knew.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He's term limited, so he can't run in the 2026 gubernatorial election. I guess he thinks the next step is the presidency so he's taking the buddy up to the conservatives strategy that worked so well for Harris...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Thanks for the info!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

He’s trying to make himself the designated opposition figure the GOP approves of

[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Newsom even slobbered to Kirk that his own 13-year-old son is one of his fans, and admired Kirk for that, instead of chewing out his lying ass for pied-pipering his son’s brain with hateful rhetoric encouraging children to be bullies. “We’re getting clobbered,” Newsom said at one point, and “you’ve figured something out.”

Gavin Newsom, you are doing a shit job of fathering. Has Newsom never given his son a man-to-man about to hategasming scammers like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon? I would not publicly admit to that level of parenting failure for a million bucks. Has Newsom been bitten by the right-wing brain slug himself?

And it was Newsom’s show. Why did he let Kirk do the framing? Kirk didn’t even wait a day before getting back on his song-and-dance blaming Newsom for “ruining” California, and right wingers mocked Newsom’s weird hand-flapping.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

Privileged white boys love people who tell them they can do whatever they want, and that they’re the real winners.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Moderates" never get that...

R voters aren't voting for Republicans fiscal policy, they hate that almost as much as D voters hate neoliberal fiscal policy.

"Moderates" are now trying to meet them on social issues, but that literally erased the only difference between the parties now.

They just can't do the fiscal policies that are popular with the majority of voters, because then they don't get the ~~bribes~~ donations that the Clinton's made legal.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is SO STRANGE to me! You mean that a DEMOCRAT that ALL REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO PUNCH Still don't like him after he threw his ENTIRE BASE under the Bus? That's INSANE! I think he needs to go FURTHER RIGHT if he hopes to pick up the Republican AND Democrat Vote!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I'm gonna need a bigger bowl to catch all the sarcasm dripping off this comment. Lol

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago

Pulling a Tulsi Gabbard

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

This fucking tool is gonna switch to Republican, isn’t he?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

All I saw was one short clip of Bannon smugly calling the honorable and decent Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas." Newsome could have pushed back, called it racist, and refused to allow it, but instead of having the proper moral response, he laughed. LAUGHED! What if Bannon had used the N-word? Would Newsome have laughed then?

I used to support the idea of him running for president, but with that revolting show of appeasement, he lost my vote.

I have been wondering why Dems aren't just surrendering, many seem to be openly supporting Republican treason. The only conclusion I can come to is that they have surrendered our country to the MAGA Nazis, and are now terrified of retaliation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (5 children)

California is a great example of the reality of "liberal" rule. Fascist AF.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

California is where most of the techno fascists hail from and they bitch and moan to no end while taking advantage of social supports they want to deny to others.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

They hail from here but are generally hated by locals in my experience, but then again I'm an Inland Imperial so maybe we just hate everyone. Regardless it's mostly a side effect of having a massive economy and being one of the hearts of technological advancementsin the US since the late 1800s while not being able to stymy their influency due to federal laws. California is a victim of its own success in many ways, but hopefully it'll prove more than worth it when the US falls hopefully sooner rather than later.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

They come from California by using cheap immigrant labor, get benefits and grants from the state's massive eccnomy, and once then reach a certain threshold of income from venture capital, they claim "Commiefornia" has always hated the white man, and Trump is the true savior.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How is California fascist?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Our governor is currently sanewashing Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon, agreeing with them on several topics such as trans rights. Bannon literally Sieg Heiled about 2 weeks before Newsom had him on his podcast (Assuming that it was recorded and edited shortly before it was released.)

Our voter base is more conserned with cutting crime by being harsh to criminals, instead of funding anything that prevents future crimes.

For example, the most recent election had some props on the ballot, but successful propaganda from Republicans and the rich helped NIMBYs and the rich win. https://calmatters.org/politics/elections/2024/11/california-propositions-election-results/

  • Voted no on cheaper housing because the poor/BIPOC might use it
  • Voted no on abolishing slave labor from prisons for putting out fires because "they did the crime, they do the time"
  • Voted no on raising the minimum wage and tying it to a national index of the value of the USD to buying goods, because "the minimum wage going up will increase the cost of goods!!"
  • Voted yes on increasing the punishments for petty theft and drug charges, because we hate the people stealing bread and diapers to survive the hellscape we've voted to keep.

We also deported homeless people, clearing camps and forcing them into buses. https://apnews.com/article/california-newsom-homeless-los-angeles-san-francisco-5b2b3aca9ca56efb444a717d278c1fd9

We also arrest homeless people, using them as the cheap slave labor we send to fight fires. We voted to strip gay people of their right to marry when we voted Obama into office.

We care more about the "status quo" and the "sanctity of normal" over doing anything helpful for the people living here. The fact that my governor that I personally voted for is now buddying up with Steve fucking Bannon, the man who helped get Trump into office twice makes me sick to my stomach that I ever supported him.

Are we fascist as Trump? Not yet. But we've always hated anyone who isnt a white middle class. We're the state Nixon and Reagan came from. We're the state that argued for the right to prohibit Mexicans in the United States/California should no right to access anything public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187 We're the state that argued that your cell phone shouldn't be covered under the 4th Amendment and the cops don't need a warrant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riley_v._California

California isn't explicitly fascist, but we have the biggest Republican voting bloc in the union, more than Texas. We have a deep passionate hatred for anyone other than the assumed default. I genuinely fear that the next governor will be willing to aid the Trump government as an appeasement/compromise, which will be handing over anyone Trump wants.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

We jail people for being homeless. My fine city of Fresno will even fine you $1000. So maybe not concentration camp levels of fascism, but yeah....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Sad you're still getting downvoted for saying a simple fact that NeoLiberal NMIBYism is fascism with slightly more polite tone and mask.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Californian here, we're barely better than what's happening in the feds. Newsom would love to just copy Trump if he could.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

yes but the food is better. and, um...

the food is better.

edit: shut the fuck up, unless you're from louisiana or specific food cities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I feel like Trump turned him when they met during the wildfire thing.