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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just pirate everything. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not all online services are streaming media services. There are lots of other US services to get away from.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

For example?
Other than apple google and facebook

Edit: Smooth, no examples. Stay classy.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Other than three of the largest tech companies in the world that encompass services from social media to maps to email?

Well there’s X, Amazon, Reddit, Microsoft, Oracle, Broadcom, Salesforce, Intuit, Cisco, Palo Alto, Ubiquiti, and CloudFlare. There’s a total of 15 examples, not counting subsidiaries of these companies, nor breaking them down by product like YouTube, Gmail, Twitch, Maps, Azure, AWS, VMWare, etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thank you. What are the alternatives to those?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

To those what? Those are the American companies behind the services, the actual list of services and products those companies provide would take awhile to list out. Then each one of those products or services is going to have 1-3 alternatives at least. If you want some alternatives you’re going to have to narrow down your question, because like the guy you originally replied to said, there are a LOT of them. If you want a teaser, you’re making these comments on an alternative to one of the products of these companies right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Ok. Thanks for the help...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Nice, thank you for a real answer. I appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You want me to list every US tech company that provides an online service? That's absurd. Am I supposed to be proving that there are more than three companies in the USA that do this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Any examples would suffice. But you'd have already done that if you're replying in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

GitHub? Internet Archive? Wikipedia?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

What are the alternatives to those?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Damn. We need a decentralized archive and encyclopedia badly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, you tell me since I'm just giving you examples of US hosted services as you asked for.

Personally you could self host all three, but it would be a fairly expensive endeavour and you'd be operating on a brand new platform with no users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How would i tell you when i asked you for the alternatives? That doesn't make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pray tell, how do you "pirate" a SSO service as you alluded to above?

No one asked for alternatives. We're more interested in how you're gonna "pirate" these things. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I asked for alternatives. More than once. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd pirate a data center if I could

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Id download the whole damn thing, along with a car.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Good one! 🤣🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The only US service I ever used nowadays is YouTube with extreme ad block ofc

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

that cannot be true.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Is this coming from Wired magazine, aka the press organ of silicon valley? Big wows.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

when shit really hits the fan europe will lose access to some if not all us based services.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Qwant is owned by Huawei. Leaving Trumplandia for Xi…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Qwant is owned by Huawei.

No it isn't.

Why are you lying like this? What's the goal?

Qwant is based in Paris and its owners are:

  • Jean-Manuel Rozan

  • Éric Léandri

  • Patrick Constant

  • Caisse des dépôts et consignations (basically a public investment institution owned by the French government)

  • Groupe Axel Springer (an online media company based in Germany)

So again: why did you lie? What's the goal here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This source backs me up, not you.

Under the terms of the contract, the Chinese group has the possibility of converting its obligations within two years in order to become a minority shareholder in the French group - in the order of 5 to 7.5% of the capital, according to the documents obtained by Politico. But such a scenario, which would allow Huawei to influence Qwant’s strategy, can only be achieved if the Chinese group obtains prior among other conditions. According to Politico, this mechanism reassured the Deposit Fund. Qwant, on the other hand, assures that Huawei is not trying to get into its capital.

So, a 2021 source says Huawei, in accordance with agreements, could possibly take a 5 to 7.5% stake as long as they did it within two years. It then states that this isn't something Huawei actually intends to go ahead with.

It's been well over two years, Huawei indeed didn't take a stake in Qwant, and Qwant is still entirely French-German.

With that above information, you went online and lied, saying Huawei owns Qwant. They do not. You lied. And now you're doubling down on it.

Bit suspicious, by the way, that you're a new account with only 3 comments, all of which spreading misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That last bullet point is indeed a negative for Qwant.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Xi isn't going to take me away to special education camps. They can have my data.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

We are literally watching ICE kidnap people in the USA with legal resident status and deporting them or transferring them to detention centers, and somehow people are downvoting you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Uyghurs disagree.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they already have detention centers wjere they send their "unwanted".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but if you're in the US, you'd be more concerned about the US authorities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You do sound special

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you back that claim up at all? Qwant is not owned by Huawei. They don't even hold shares as far as I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

8 million convertible bounds in a company that hasn’t turned a profit. Sure no risk at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

This is a weird line in the sand. Instead of focusing on where something is build, shouldnywe focus on technical details and software licenses?

For example, Signal is based in the US, but the app is structured in such a way that they have minimal information: just the creation time and last login, associated with a phone number. That has even been tried in court, and that's literally all they could provide. Telegram is worse technically speaking, but it's headquartered outside the US.

Don't evaluate software based on where it's developed, evaluate it based on what is does and can do in the future.