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Time to collect my paycheck I guess ๐Ÿ˜‚

(Also: When the fuck did I ever mention Taiwan? I said "Before becoming a Wumao, learn some Chinese". Bro is mad ๐Ÿ˜)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Trying to hide your affiliation is pointless, that's why I just put it and my callsign in my username

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Fine.

I'm Agent 420 of Division 69

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If Taiwan doesn't exist where do these mfers keep getting CPUs from to spread their nonsense on the internet? After all it was made in a country that doesn't exist and didn't exist when it was made

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago

CSMC of course!

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago

These West Taiwan folks sure are strange

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

You may be a paid agent, but not for long. I'm reporting screenshots of this straight to DOGE.

[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I had a conversation with a "Democrats betrayed us on Gaza" account, during which time it started to seem pretty likely to me they they couldn't speak Arabic but were pretending that they could. That was pretty interesting. Instead of being able to speak on the Arabic details we were talking about, they started dissembling into a pattern of (1) hostility (2) accusing me of being the person in the wrong because I am bad (3) randomly changing the subject, making nonsensical statements, and insisting that they were right. Sort of like these examples:

Link to thebrainbin.org that Lemmy is too simple-minded to be able to expand

https://ponder.cat/post/2054411/2342084

If you start looking closely, it's only a small number of accounts that tend to "argue" in that very particular way, and they almost all have the same particular political views. I wonder why.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a small number of accounts that argue that way. It's typical of all online users when they are wrong and don't have a response.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It's common to lash out when embarrassed, especially toward the thing you perceive caused the embarrassment.

I don't think that's a political indicator, it's just an indicator that it's human (or at least trained on human interactions, especially online interactions)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Just more evidence to push towards "they are targets places as fringe as lemmy now" conclusion in our previous conversation.

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm Ukrainian American and got blocked from the Ukraine sub. These people are just as bad as reddit. No difference

[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your instance is home to lots of tankies. I would personally consider jumping ship.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is that what it is lol? I didn't even know.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Your instsnce literally block 3 spam instances and threads.net and thats it. Everything else goes, even the pedo intances that supposedly exists (but I am not gonna try to verify their existence since that's just ๐Ÿคฎ, but scroll down the instance list and you see some with "pedo" in their domain name, which is just huge red flags)

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Erm. Well for 1 I don't know how to do that, but 2 I don't want to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a lot. Most are sane but they are trying to infiltrate with extra accounts.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That could be the case. However, your instance admins don't seem to want to do much modding. I've seen lots of questionable comments from there including hate speech and all sorts of bizarre takes. It might all one person for all I know but it looks the same from the outside. I haven't blocked your instance as of yet but if the spam increases I might have to unfortunately.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

A lot of places that are "full of tankies" actually have more people not like that in them. However, the moderation is another story. So while you may not get that feeling from the general user base, that is because it is often the mods people are talking about. Unless it's like hexbear, which were brigading and shit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Apparently there's a decently sized community on the instance I'm on. It's got a different vibe than most similar reddit communities though

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait a minute, so who's moderating the Ukrainian sub then? Another Ukrainian-American, a Ukrainian, or a foreigner?

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Good question.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Wow misread these so hard.

Guess 90% of people are CIA agents then if they are going to get mad about a common denomination.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sleeper agent activation phrase:

The mitochondria is...

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's just that oxidative phosphorylation with the mitochondria is dramatically more efficient than basic ass glycolysis. Animals couldn't exist as fast moving creatures without mitochondria.

The meme about the mitochondria is only for people that haven't taken biochemistry. But the citric acid cycle is super interesting.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Gotta love when foreigners try to correct you on your language

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

yo, i got my own personal troll now, too!

LEMMY IS WORKING

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

hmmm does it make you a tankie to simply not hate China? does it make you a tankie to realize there's things to like and hate about China like other countries. Also who's getting mad at CCP, it is CCP. but honestly I'm not sure why we are busy pointing fingers at China while we suffer a fascist takeover in the US, I'm talking specifically about Americans hating on china. I can't help but feel humor at that lol.but hey I'm just some random, what do I know :3 apparently not what a tankie is I swear to god people just throw that term around all over the place these days. ่ฟ™ๆ˜ฏ็–ฏ็‹‚็š„ๆ—ถไปฃ ๐Ÿ˜ข

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago

I don't hate China, I hate CCP. The CCP ruined my former country so I had to flee.

Similarly, I hate the republicans and establishment democrats, it doesn't mean hate the USA, the values of Freedom (that are constantly violated by the government).

Liking China is not being a tankie.

่ตต็ดซ้˜ณ (Zhao Ziyang) loved China was a patriot who seeked reforms, but was purged by the CCP, because he dared to have a peaceful talk with the students. The students at ๅคฉๅฎ‰้—จๅนฟๅœบ (Tiananment Square) were patriots who love China and peacefully attended a demonstration seeking reforms and seeked a better future for China. These are people who actually loved China, not people who shill for the government all the time.

Similarly, liking the USA does not make you a maga/nazi, you can like the ideals of the US, Freedom and Democracy, while being against the US Government.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I learned a lot from tankies, they're right in aspects, but china is not democratic nor is it as socialist as it could be, why should we support a regime that doesn't do anything to push forward communism?