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[–] [email protected] 153 points 2 months ago (6 children)

That's fucking wild! Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords. It will start with "we're only targetting cartels" and conclude with "these terrorists are purposely using hospital staff as human shields, what would you have us do?!"

[–] [email protected] 143 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wild take here but I don't really think the US should be bombing ANY other nation.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not even Israeli or Russian troops in Palestine or Ukraine?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The US could just stop sending weapons to Israel and the fighting will stop too. As for Ukraine, Zelensky has tried to make deals with Russia before and the West told him not to because they promised they'd continue backing him with more weapons that would give them the edge, which the US is obviously reneging on now (which, to be fair, is something Trump sort of said he'd do, so you could argue that's been democratically decided).

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed on Israel, but you are WILDLY misrepresenting the context and tenor of the Ukrainian war.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/

They were close to a deal during a relative high water mark (Ukraine had just taken Kharkiv back and a huge chunk of the east). They've only gone backwards since and whatever deal they can get now will most likely be worse.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They were not close to a deal. Putin’s desired endgame is “I own Ukraine”. Ukraine’s desired endgame is “Ukraine continues to exist and isn’t constantly hammered by Russian missiles and bombs”. There’s not really much room for negotiation there. Moreover, Putin has negotiated in demonstrably bad faith multiple times over the course of the war (and I mean since 2014, when they used unmarked soldiers to annex parts of Ukraine and “held a referendum”). I’m not claiming Ukraine is a flawless paragon of virtue, but at the same time, there are VERY clear good guys and bad guys in the Ukrainian government war. Russia is the bad guys.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Correct. The US should stick to the tried and true method of supplying the weapons, teaching users how to maximize their effectiveness, and assist in the logistics of the altercations.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Or just stop sticking our nose into everyone else's business.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords

I'll note that for the latter, it's a failed state ruled by warlords because the US rolled in and fucked everything up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Afghanistan was all fucked up long before that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Arguably, Afghanistan has never been united as a nation in the way we think about it, at least not for long. The cycle seems to be short decades of control under some power followed by decades of decentralization and local powers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I mean it wasn't exactly a shining example of progress and order, but it wasn't a failed state.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This statement is only relevant if your knowledge of history started in 1980.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

failed states ruled by warlords

Do you have any idea how many candidates get murdered in elections in Mexico?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Anyone else getting tired of this guy?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

In 1935. By 1940 everyone who was able to say that was already not in a position to say anything. US is just at the beginning of the journey.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Drone bombing? So, like, starting a war?

I'll be interested to see how that pans out. Another powerful Dictator recently invaded a much smaller weaker nation, and that didn't turn out how everyone expected, so...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There are over 65 MILLION hispanic people in the US, many of them have family or other connections in Mexico.

If this clown started a war with fucking Mexico, it would end just like his "war with canada" with millions of people marching on DC and dragging his bloated, festering orange ass out of the white house with force and likely exacting their own justice out on the lawn. Americans have been wounded, but they still have limits.

Trump (or his team) know this, that's why they're saying all this shit, because they KNOW it riles up people who aren't his supporters. They are deliberately trying to stoke division so that the Trump-haters and Trump-lovers go to war with each other. That is their ideal fantasy because it would allow martial law, revocation of rights, and like, five more terms of various Trump family members sitting on the throne.

Their trick is going to be riding the line long enough so that people tune out and stop caring about the lesser crimes he's doing all day, every day.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

If you want to know how it came to be that Palestinians elected and supported Hamas, just watch in real time as Mexican cartels step up to help Mexico resist American imperialism. I guarantee it will play out in an eerily familiar way if Trump keeps playing these games.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump thinks literally everyone is supposed to be subordinate to the U.S. because 'murica.

I say Mexico drone strikes the source of it's gang's weapons supply; namely the gun manufacturers in the United States.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

subordinate to the U.S. because 'murica.

Not quite - he wants them to be subordinate to him.

In olden days, Kings would force fealty by forcing others to "kiss the ring". That's exactly what he tries to do - and what was behind the ridiculous display with his guest, President Zelensky.

We've seen him hide behind his title again and again when people challenge him "You don't speak to the president like that!" Yet any small successes are entirely his doing. Shameful, if the man had any shame whatsoever.

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