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The price would include the US making concessions to Moscow such as recognising the 2014 annexation of Crimea, though Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskyysaid no such proposal had been shared with him by the White House and that his country could not endorse it.

The emerging US-Russia plan would then envisage a ceasefire along roughly the existing front lines once Moscow’s territorial demand has been dropped, leaks suggest – something that Ukraine has indicated it could accept, as long it did not have to recognise Russian occupation as permanent or legal.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I will not lay claim to the British isles. All peace will cost is 100 dollars and a small fiefdom comprising approximately 20% of the UK.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

At least until you have time to build up your military again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, this is "we just want these as staging areas for our next invasion after we rebuild our war fighting capabilities".

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago

How generous /s

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

oh how fucking magnanimous of them. as a gracious gesture, i will stop claiming Virginia should possess the territories in russia it doesn't currently occupy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

Oh, in this case I am willing to drop my claim to Moscow and Petersburg.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

In addition to other comments, the Russian Federation has violated about 400 international treaties since 2014. It is baseless what Moscow 'may be willing' to do. Putin will continue building up the army and attack the next country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

The benefit since 2014, is that Europe has finally woken up to Russia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

That's nice how about them security guarantees tho

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ukraine should not have signed the minerals deal with the US. Now, they're likely going to be fucked in more than 1 ways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

What is a piece of paper worth in this Age.

The Americans have just pissed on a lot of international trade agreements, and have had a soft stance of 'rules for thee, but not for me', for the whole post war period. The Russians, don't stand by anything it seems. China has simply ignored their international trade agreements at times.

The planet turns, power fluctuates. Ukraine might not always be so reliant on the USA as it is. And the interests of their next partners may be far more closely aligned.

The worlds rules are changing as we speak. No idea where it ends up, it largely depends on the decisions of many national leaders, but i'm certain agreements made between countries in this time, means less, and is less enforceable than they were a decade or more ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

They better start forking over cash, they fucked up bigly.