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[–] Havald@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I just want to change my battery and get a phone for that no people had to die In some poor country.

Like seriously, what's the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Like seriously, what’s the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

It’s 100%. You use them on your phone all day every day. Your keyboard used machine learning algorithms as you typed your comment to dynamically adjust the size of the tap target of your likely next character and for autocorrect.

Every single photo taken on a phone is run through a huge amount of ML to create it.

All of this is to say, however, that this headline is ridiculous. Aside from Material UI, this is basically a description of every iPhone from the last half decade (with a dedicated “neural engine”). Not really a change in the smartphone world.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Definitely a little bit of hyperbole with that headline. I think I have to use the exact headline the article uses though.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree in the fact that some ML algorithms are used daily by nearly all who have a smartphone, but things like increasing the touch target is BS. It's quite easy to confirm by simply either looking at the code or enabling "show layout bounds" in Android's Developer Options.

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[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I miss removable batteries so much. I was so disappointed that project aria never went anywhere

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I need a new phone soon, can't really wait until the EU regulations force companies to build them with removable batteries. I need to look more into Fairphone, hope that's decent. Last review I read made me concerned about battery life, I really don't like charging my phone every day either. Or having to carry a power bank with me.

I don't think there's anything on the market that comes even close to the modularity aria had promised. Moto z had some mods but they dropped that very quickly unfortunately.

[–] be_gt@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My fairphone4 has been really good so far. If battery power is an issue you could just bring one spare but I haven't needed to do that yet

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Bringing a spare is a good point. Less of a hassle than a power bank (although still not ideal). Battery life is pretty much the only thing I care about aside from longevity. Fairphone has longevity covered, maybe the review I read just made the battery life seem mich worse than it actually is. I'll have to look into it some more, thanks

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have to do the power bank thing from time to time and it's definitely suboptimal. I think I can easily make it to the 9a though or maybe the 8a after some piece cuts. I used to play the "what's the new hotness" game and it's nice not being that gullible with my money anymore.

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[–] eumesmo@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was so hyped for project aria back then... It was so sad that it was discontinued.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was such a cool concept. I really don't care about how thin my phone is. I'd much rather be able to replace a broken screen easily. I'd love to be able to upgrade my camera or take the camera out and put a little more battery in it. I really hope they revisit the concept someday.

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[–] panja@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Many actions on modern phones use AI. Text to speech and image processing just to name two. I am very excited to not have that information being constantly sent to the cloud for processing.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that the Pixel camera hardware isn't that spectacular but boy-oh-boy the processed photos look spectacular.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

the hardware is middle to low class, but they've taken a lot of time to optimize the software indeed

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Headphone jack? Sd slot? Replacable batt?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So pissed the new fairphone dropped the headphone jack.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

US doesn't even get a faiphone...

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[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

What rubbish. It is exactly the same as every other smartphone on the planet. Updates are only new software and even then you could flash a new rom.

Click bait bullshit

[–] kftX@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this year's Tensor an actual in-house chip or just another rebranded shitty Exynos?

Hats off to Samsung tho, kneecapping the competition 😂

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

this article says that it's based on its Exynos 2400. Good call

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m being a non-article-reading heathen here but of those three bullets I don’t think any is new to the smartphone industry - albeit Apple is cagey with support timelines (and probably slows down on what’s fixed versus the current iOS version) but the 5s technically got a iOS 12 patch this year.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If a seven year update cycle becomes the norm for Android phones that would be revolutionary in my opinion. I have my doubts though.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

meanwhile Fairphone on their way to do up to 10 years

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[–] ErikDegenerik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

All that is worthless when the phone will be released without battery.

[–] IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Do the 7y updates also apply to the non-pro versions?

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The only thing that i want from Google right now is that they release Android 14.

[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, I want them to stop releasing shit. IMO Android peaked already, and it seems like every update over the last 5 years has made things slightly worse.

Have they made improvements? Yes, but each improvement has come bundled with several UI regressions.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, and to be honest, the only reason i look up to Android 14 is because of the AV1 codec hardware acceleration requirement.

[–] jcrabapple@artemis.camp 2 points 2 years ago

There were some major last minute bugs so they're releasing it in October with the phone this time.

none of those features are current or future requirements of mine. i want user-expandable memory, and useful expansion IO like the headphone jack, microsd and USBc.

there is not a single 'feature' introduced in the last decade that i care about.

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