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I felt it was vague enough for the sake of the argument.

End of the day: there are different social rules for different environments. A group of friends, where you know the people involved, is not the situation the egg prime directive is meant for.

You're mis-stating the egg prime directive and then arguing that your mis-statement is bad. Which is kind of like a FART mis-stating the trans agenda as "wanting to let boys play girls sports if they wear a skirt for a day."

(Not to mention the whole cis/trans split papers over the absurd number of various "nonbinary" options.)

The egg prime directive is simply "don't declare someone else as trans.". Tell them it's OK to be trans. Ask them if they are trans. Even go so far as to suggest that they might be, if you know the person and they are struggling.

Just don't try lecturing someone else on their gender.

I think, though, some people are too eager to throw out what they think is a reality check. Like in the post above, some are terrified of letting other trans people suffer (rightfully so), so they paint with too broad a brush and insist that someone must simply be in denial. I watched MLP, I like cute art and flowers and scented candles, and make female characters in video games because they get better fashion options. Does that mean I’m trans and denying it? No, it doesn’t.

It’s a delicate topic, and I won’t deny that there is a lot of stigma and social momentum against having these kinds of honest conversations about oneself. I’m just afraid that young people who are still trying to figure out who they are might get the wrong idea about themselves if people keep insisting that because you might like the color pink you must therefore be trans.

The assumption that demonstrating traits not aligned with your gender must make you the other gender is silly, short sighted, needlessly restrictive of potential identities, and in and of itself dangerous. Full stop.

That is the same logic used years back to argue that men who were not traditionally masculine had to be gay. That causes harm as well. Harm I've experienced through bullying, ostracization, etc. After hearing that assumption of my sexuality enough times, I suffered confusion about my identity as a teen. Now people are arguing that somehow using that same logic but now it means you're trans?

I cannot make this any clearer: Present people with their options and allow them to make their own damn choices.

Over a decade later I'm still not particularly masculine, and I am happy in a cishet marriage with a child I am proud to be a father to. Yeah, I'm technically bisexual. I have a single digit number of men I've encountered in my 30+ years that I could go for, but I'm not gay which was the identity prescribed to me.

When even the most generous studies show trans people as making up a single digit percentage of the population, it's silly to argue that there is an intrinsic problem with CIS being the default.

The problem is when people don't understand that not being cis is an option. Or when they don't leave options open. Don't conflate that with the fact that good or bad, cis is factually overwhelmingly the default.

If people are allowed to be whatever they wish (and they should be) then there is room for people who are cis but display traits not aligned with that.

Tomboys exist. Women who demonstrate traditionally masculine traits but are still women. There are also trans men, who may have done the same pre-transistion but are men. There has to be room for both.

Not entirely sure what the term would be, but feminine men exist who are still men and are not trans. There are also trans women.

All of those identities ae valid. Assuming trans because non-conformity is just setting a new needlessly restrictive default.

Lastly, once again I must emphasize that:

your example of someone in a group of friends is NOT what the egg prime directive is about.

Different fucking social situations call for different rules and approaches. For fucks sake.

...decided it was evil to suggest to people showing non-cis traits or behaviors that they, indeed, may not be cis.

From the sources I found, most people take the "Egg Prime Directive" to mean asserting someone's identify is wrong, not suggesting explanations for how they feel.

If someone didn't "violate" the egg prime directive, I probably wouldn't consider myself a form of enby. All thanks to a queer group on discord.

I'll gladly take a violation of it to help people feel comfortable than making people feel uncomfortable because no one wants to talk about it.

Maybe treat every person as an individual with their own needs and sensitivities?

I agree, that's what I took away from it. (see the paragraph after the quote)

not randos on the internet

It's better to learn from other people's experiences and not run into issues that you could have avoided from learning beforehand.

What I have heard is, don't insist that a cis-identifying person is trans. Especially don't butt in, say, over the internet when you don't know them.

If someone says "I wish I was a lesbian" it would be ok to say "That's an option, you know 😉" but not ok to say "You're a trans woman in denial"

Ok so my brain is having a really difficult time processing that.

I understand the "you should not tell them that. They should figure it out on their own at most nudge them in the right direction."

What i don't understand is the "cis person behaving in non-cis ways."

Like I was born male, feel male, look male. I'm very much attracted to women.

But I also hate sports,typical masculine activities, and in general hate hanging out with other men. As a result, my social interactions seems to mirror what would be seen more between women than men. But I'm certainly not a woman. No part of me feels like a woman. No part of me looks like a woman. I don't fantasize about being a woman.

This is a foreign concept to me.

Also why call it "egg" prime directive? Seems a little deragotory for someone who isn't out yet.