For more information about this subject I recommend watching this documentary by independent journalism platform Zembla. That talks in detail about the company DuPont (Chemours) and PFOA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kzHc-eV88&pp=ygULWmVtYmxhIHBmb2E%3D
this post was submitted on 16 May 2025
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We poisoned the planet for us
We did not do anything. A very small group of people indeed knowingly and willingly poisoned the earth for a bunch of monies.
You'd think they'd be jailed for that, but here we are
I'm more inclined to think that they weren't willing, but rather that they just didn't work on the implications. Occam's razor. Don't assume evil when stupidity, or laziness, or simple plain cost cutring can explain things.
Teflon found out and yet did nothing. That is willingly.
May have started innocently but there was a point they knew and didn't care. That is the point where execs should be getting harsh sentences from
and they keep making the shit.
fuck
"We poisoned the planet"
Fuck off! Unscrupulous greed industrialists poisoned the planet knowingly and tried to hide or minimize the fact from the public.
I'm curious where this money actually went. Like which specific people have it right now.
These persons paid a lot to have laws that exempt them from any responsibility.
Sure, of course they're legally immune. Just curious who they are anyways.
Yay, my generations lead poisoning. Fuck capitalism
Use stainless steel and cast iron and nothing else
If you watch the video, it says there is no reason to switch, as teflon is not poisonous. The catalyst chemicals in manufacturing when released into rivers and other places is the biggest source. Then some shoddy packaging of fast foods.
PFASes are not only used for your pan.
Carbon steel, glass, clay, ceramic, aluminum, and enameled cast iron are all great too!
Also stainless steel has the potential to leach chromium into foods. Research into this is still preliminary.
Got myself a set of ceramic coated pans just a few days ago. Am very happy with them. No PFAS at all and much better anti stick than my old teflon pan.
Enameled cast iron is like magic.
Worst case I let it soak for a bit and it comes out clean with just a brush in a minute.
The trick is to use wooden spoons to prevent scratching. Egg sticks to the scratches and forces you to make more scratches as you attempt to scrape it off.
This puts me off it. I like to be able to use metal tools on my pans
The trick is to use any cast iron, carbon steel, stainless and heat the pan then add oil before cooking. zero stick when done after heating
Doesnβt work though if I want to fry something with little or even without oil, which I do on occasion.
Yeah unfortunately. I wish we can have pans with built-in temperature sensors
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I generally use either wood or plastic when cooking with an anti stick pan (although, supposedly ceramic coating can take more of a beating than teflon).
For anyone who can't be bothered to watch the entire 1 hour episode: It's not really about frying pans.
The PFAs are everywhere by now. Butter on a pan will do jack shit to save you. It's really fucked up. You should watch the video.
Yup your most likely sources are stuff like:
- your water supply
- any coated paper materials coming into contact with (hot) food and beverages, eg. Burger wrappers, coated paper coffee cups, microwave popcorn, pizza boxes, etc.
We didn't poison the whole planet so our eggs wont stick. A small number of people poisoned the planet to get rich
This is the truth!
Firefighting foam used at airports. Every airport, every military base with an airstrip practices routinely with PFAS. They are still doing it.
It is everywhere. Water, soil, rain and you.
I lost a coworker to brain cancer this year that was caused by his exposure to PFAs when he was a firefighter. This shit is fucked.
I happen to live near one. The city had to shut down a well until they could install a filter.
I also have an undersink RO system, but people shouldn't have to do that.
Which is wild because if you knew how to properly use oil/butter and a cast iron pan... they won't stick to your pan.
We literally created a world of idiots that don't know how to do anything.
I recently switched to cast iron, and I have no fucking idea why I wasted so much time and money on nonstick over the last many years. They are better than nonstick, easier to maintain, and make food taste better as well.
you are so much smarter than everyone else
Look it's not my fault people didn't get an opportunity to learn these skills because they were instead sold cheap, poisonous bullshit. Why would anyone learn if they didn't have to because there was an easier, cheaper way? It's not really the fault of individuals who don't know any better when society isn't going out it's way to teach them such skills. Hell, I didn't learn this until I was in my early thirties, because my parents had used teflon cookware all while I was growing up.
But, please, read it more as me thinking I'm better than everyone else rather than someone who got lucky enough to learn these skills eventually who is disappointed that we were sold poison as an 'easy' solution.
While I agree and have switched to cast iron and stainless steel, itβs not enough. No pfas were used in the manufacturing of my cookware, plus I expect to save money by never having to replace it. However the documentary starts showing how ubiquitous the chemicals are and for how many uses. While we all absolutely need better cookware choices, itβs only a drop in the bucket of so many consumer and industrial products.
Our part includes increased awareness and better choices for many things we come into contact with every day. However itβs critical to better regulate, to hold companies accountable for the damage theyβve done, bring them to justice for impact on public health and coverups, etc β¦. And thatβs not just unlikely but really impossible
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To be fair only like 0.1% (yes I made this number up) of all Fluoropolymers end up in frying pans.
Most of it is used in industry, building, medicine...
The original thumbnail had a fork scraping a nomstick pan if anyone is curious
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