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Seems that the Swiss legislature may pass a law requiring ProtonVPN to start banning certain domains from being access by French users (mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

For those using ProtonVPN, is the writing on the wall?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (4 children)

(mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

This doesn't accomplish what the legislature intends. It never does. For instance, in the US, Texas in all their wisdom that can't keep an electrical grid running smooth without duct tape and bailing wire, has decided to 'ban' PornHub. It makes all the christofascist's dicks hard because in their mind, they have rooted out evil and destroyed it. (See Satanic Panic in the 80s) However, their weak, little minds cannot comprehend the fact that for every technology, there exists an equal, yet undoing technology.

Do it for the children I hear them say, and I would agree in this example, that children should not be viewing porn. A better solution would be to make parents actually parent. You brought a service into your home that can be both highly detrimental and highly beneficial, and then you turn around give it all, including a cel phone, to a very inquisitive mind uninhibited, unmonitored, and uncontrolled in any manner. You're the problem, not porn.

/end soapbox

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As a very tech savvy parent I have to say that setting up an inhibited, monitored and controlled internet for specific devices and users is insanely difficult. The average person stands no chance. But sure, blame the parents instead of the technology as it is sold and delivered.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Then give them dumb phones

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'd say the problem is education. Porn is only an issue because people do not get proper sex ed. The reaction to seeing a dick sucked in front of a child shouldn't be shame, disgust, or terror but allowing the inquisitive mind to ask what is happening.

Sex is a completely normal occurrence that is the reason we are all here. There shouldn't be any shame or stigma in explaining to a child (or any person for that matter) what it is, what it involves, why it is done, how to safely do it, what consent is, why it is stigmatised.

Want to protect children? Educate them.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's the same law but they've already said they'd move countries, anywhere with laws suitable for the service

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would they really though? Being in Switzerland is a huge part of their brand and marketing.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The only reason it's part of their branding because Switzerland is notoriously respectful of privacy. If they stop being that then that's no longer a selling point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know how to answer that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I believe "notorious" is used in negative contexts, and was curious why Switzerland being respectful of privacy would be a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no, that's not what notorious means. It just means a lot of people know about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

From Merriam-Webster:

especially : widely and unfavorably known

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You skipped the first definition.

generally known and talked of

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah. The word really just breaks down to, "having been noticed widely."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But this has nothing against privacy just piracy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Privacy is what protects you against criminal charges or being banned by your ISP

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This is a form of the “Nothing to hide” fallacy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

As in why is a post about VPNs on a self-hosted forum?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Just more confirmation that centralized VPNs, and therefore basically all VPNs most people use, are doomed to fail in their purpose, and are sometimes worse than no VPN.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Hail TOR and I2P!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The advertising for VPNs is do full of lies also.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Does anyone have thoughts on the IPv6 privacy extensions? They theoretically could help a lot with privacy

The idea is that your device has tons of temporary IP addresses that can be used for various tasks like surfing the web.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

All of your temporary privacy addresses will be coming out of the same subnet, so it's clear they all belong to the same people.

Ultimately the privacy extensions are just bringing IPv6's privacy back in line with IPv4, because without the privacy extensions every single device has a separate IPv6 address based on its MAC address whereas in IPv4 most consumer networks have every device sharing a single IP.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Every single one of those temporary IP addresses has the same prefix, which traces back to you.

Its about as anonymous as adding an apartment number to your own street address.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If anything just that it will break most tracking and surveillance systems that weren't built for the tiny proportion of ipv6 hosts.

The question is, how can get a few tens of thousands of completely random and unrelated ipv6 addresses and pick one at random for every connection I make to outside my LAN

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

My thought is that people who dont like this will stop using proton vpn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Firefox has a VPN. They are also releasing Thundermail.Com soon and will likely have an all in one yearly package.