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Other images displayed by Trump during meeting with South African president Cyril Ramaphosa were false or misleading

The evidence of supposed mass killings of white South Africans presented by Donald Trump in a tense White House meeting on Wednesday were in some cases images from the Democratic Republic of Congo, while footage shown during the meeting was falsely portrayed as depicting “burial sites”.

“These are all white farmers that are being buried,” said Trump, holding up a print-out of an article accompanied by a picture during the contentious Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa.

The picture accompanying the article was in fact a screengrab of a video published by Reuters on 3 February and subsequently verified by the news agency’s fact check team, showing humanitarian workers lifting body bags in the Congolese city of Goma. The image was pulled from Reuters footage shot after deadly battles with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Honestly, I don't know if he's knowingly lying or just genuinely fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Fun fact, it’s both! He knows he’s lying all the time and doesn’t care. He’s also stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fascists can never admit that they're wrong, becauae then their vaneer of being infallible immediately falls apart.

I still remember back in 2015-2016 when 4chan called Trump "God Emperor." That mentality hasn't gone away. Fascism is a cult.

The only "truth" that fascists believe is the "truth" of the fascist leader. Trump even calls his social media platform "Truth Social" FFS. It couldn't be more blatent.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

You can tell he is lying because he's talking

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ramaphosa was right to ask "I'd like to know where that is", when the "evidence" was shown to him live.

Other world leaders should be prepared to challenge Trump right to his face when he fabricates lies like this in those pathetic ambush attempts.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I once got into an argument with a south African on reddit about white genocide. Even over there it's a political issue, but the way he and many people describe it makes it seem like if you even set foot there as a white person you'll get mugged.

I was saying I lived there for six months, spent a lot of town in the townships where it was only black people, and I legit never once was harmed. Yeah it's dangerous but like, they act like they've never been in a dangerous neighborhood in the states.

But because I was an American sharing this perspective and they were South African, I got relentlessly shamed by redditors. To be fair I get where they're coming from. If you have no clue about the issue and someone from another country trying to say something said about that persons own country is BS, it doesn't look good. But it's literally a political topic and he was coming at it from the extreme right perspective. Because I'm an American, like a dozen people took away from that thread that white genocide is real.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

he would have said that these were real coffins for white farmers children if they didn't have the palestinian flag on them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqvp1FOir4Y

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

To choose SA of all places for this particular agenda has to be the most ironic thing I've heard in a while 🤦‍♂️ quite brave asw considering Musk's family history

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Look at me, i am the fake news now" -Dictator Donnie

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Now???

- the rest of the world

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Like he can tell the difference.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

If there’s a continent where white genocide is justified, Africa sure is a front runner!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (34 children)

What about those that weren't from Congo?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The one was a picture of a large number of crosses which Trump said was a burial site for 1000s of white farmers, when it was in fact a memorial following the death of 2 farmers. The memorial was intended to represent all farm deaths of all races. Farm deaths are an issue but the victims are of all races - they kill the farmers, their families and the workers.

There was a video of a political leader singing a song that translates to "Kill the Boer" i.e. kill the white Afrikaans farmer. This video is: a) more than a decade old, b) from a rally of a minority opposition party i.e. not the political party of the people Trump was meeting, c) from a political party that has been losing votes in recent elections, led by someone who was expelled from the ruling party, d) is of a historic protest song from the apartheid era i.e. more than 30 years ago.

This video resulted in a court case, where the court concluded that a "reasonably well-informed person" would understand that when a protest song is sung "even by politicians, the words are not meant to be understood literally, nor is the gesture of shooting to be understood as a call to arms or violence."

This video was a big deal at the time but it's not current, not representative of the government's view, and the person depicted in it is increasingly being sidelined in South African politics.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

funny how the racists come out in the comments as soon as any thread mentions white genocide.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I heard the photos were supplied by the US based neo fucking Nazi group American Tinker.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Doesn't mean that we don't have a violence issue in South Africa. Our killing stats are on par with countries at war. Think about that for a minute

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one is saying that South Africa doesn't have a violence problem just that "white genocide" is a lie.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Indeed the president of South Africa said exactly that in the meeting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I recall the SA president saying they do have a violence problem, just not in the way trump is describing it.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes sorry I was unclear. The South African president said that South Africa has a violence problem, not just for white farmers.

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