I didn't even notice, lol good riddance they were on their way to making the Tankie Triad the Tankie Quartet lmao
Now, if only we could get .ml to shutdown
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I didn't even notice, lol good riddance they were on their way to making the Tankie Triad the Tankie Quartet lmao
Now, if only we could get .ml to shutdown
Lemmy.ml lives rent free in your head, have a day off pal
I mean it's a pretty influential instance since that's where the lead developers reside. It would be pretty normal for everyone using lemmy to have them "live rent free in their heads"
“live rent free in their heads” doesn't mean to be aware of someone, it's talking about obsession. That cm lad constantly tries to bring up ".ml" out of nowhere to incite drama, and I just took a glance at their user profile and holy moly it's almost entirely just reposting from lemmy.ml.
Like just look at https://lemmy.world/post/30613970/17403019, a content creator is asking them to stop reposting their work to a certain community and telling them how it's harmful, and cm0002 is just using that as an excuse to handwave it and soapbox. This is unhealthy antisocial behaviour.
That cm lad constantly tries to bring up ".ml" out of nowhere to incite drama, and I just took a glance at their user profile and holy moly it's almost entirely just reposting from lemmy.ml.
Lol
I don't do it out of "no where" I generally stick to relevant threads
I have plenty of my own posts. In general, I try to aim for a 1:2 ratio, for every crosspost I post 2 articles/content that aren't cross-posts (.ml isn't actually all that busy lmao)
lemmy.ml is probably the biggest threat to the long term viability of the Lemmy-verse. It's just so amazing(/S) to come across comments out in the wild on say Reddit that goes along the lines of "I tried that Lemmy place, but it seemed to be just a bunch of tankies/run be Tankies" because they had the misfortune to land on lemmy.ml
stop reposting their work to a certain community and telling them how it's harmful
Yea, harmful to the .ml instance ...which is kinda the whole point of a boycott, to put pressure on the target to either change their ways or fall to irrelevancy
Nah, I'll take a day off when lemmy.ml either gets shutdown, defederated from or an actual fair and unbiased admin team is put in place.
We can do worse: make it irrelevant.
Now all 105 users are instanceless...
Oh the travesty!
Why was the admin annoyed at you? At most you did some mild critisism of the instance, unless I missed out on something.
Hamid is just an asswipe, there are no good reasons to be concerned with.
Good riddance.
Also LOL.
Some people interpret mild criticism they receive as a war crime.
For some reason (I genuinely don't really know why), this tends to be coupled with aiming wild unhinged criticism at other people semi constantly. When it's traveling outwards, it's fine.
It was a long saga of me documenting a few examples of his problematic views on issues, then followed by him reacting strongly towards the reception. He has sent me a group invite on matrix before shutting down the instance which I declined because of the disrespectful language he has used towards me in the past.
VTC has defederated from Lemmy.world, Lemmy.ca and SJW for being "too right-wing"
The user Hamid wont be pleased being discussed on [email protected] again.
Here are some links and screenshots for context on the whole situation:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250523082426/https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1129019
https://web.archive.org/web/20250523082609/https://vegantheoryclub.org/u/hamid
https://web.archive.org/web/20250602172829/https://lemmy.ml/post/30508506
The wild thing is, I actually agree with Hamid's self-described stance he leads off with here, about places like NCD. I unsubscribed from one of the Ukraine communities because they kept posting videos of dying Russian soldiers, and I completely agree with Hamid's self-expressed horror at the NCD type of video game aficionado "big fan of Russians dying every time" mindset which doesn't seem to have a lot of understanding of what they're really rooting for. I definitely can detect some amount of that in my own postings and there are people who take it a lot further than I do.
Where me and Hamid have issues is that he seems to take that type of reaction to anything less than full throated full agreement with literally 100% of what he has to say about anything. He can't seem to see any kind of discrepancy between "let's literally kill everyone in Israel they all deserve it, even the toddlers" versus "well Ukraine fighting back isn't something to celebrate, you know those Russian soldiers are victims too" and he will viciously attack you as a monstrous piece of shit on a personal level if you disagree with either one of those statements.
And then, of course, he'll combine that with whining extensively if anyone has the temerity to disagree or criticize him on anything. Like yes buddy. I know people who've been crippled by the US empire machine. I'm by all means not in favor of it, especially not now. That still means I can tell you to go fuck yourself and your viewpoint in some area where I think you're wrong. I'm not trying to be unsympathetic but you are extremely unsympathetic to anyone who isn't you, so it's hard to take you seriously when you demand super kind treatment from the people you're simultaneously shitting on and defederating.
They think lemmy.world and lemmy.ca are “neoliberal”?
I almost feel bad for that user they seem to take everything way to personally and that’s not a great headspace on the internet even if you try to curate it into a personal safe space.
This is a person who was totally fine with marginalized people getting hurt or worse.
Don't waste sympathy on someone like that.
If somone insults you, for example, they are really only insulting the username and profile picture they have, not you.
What did you just say about me?
I took it down because I couldn't find an admin to take it over. The admin I appointed to didn't stick with Lemmy, because Lemmy is wack.
Every time I would participate I would be thought-policed by an unhinged stalker @[email protected] and I am grew tired of being followed and am extremely angry and upset about this thread.
I am sending DMCA/GDPR/PIPEDA requests now to all the Lemmy admins and the Internet archive to purge the data from Vegan Theory Club.
Sunshine is unhinged. She disagreed with my request for feedback about defederating from SJW and decided to use an alt to post about me in tankiejerk - we didn't actually end up defederating.
She then spent months following me around different parts of lemmy screenshotting me to post in harassment communities like meanwhileongrad and this community to police my thought crimes. She goes on to manipulate the threads and the votes in these threads using an army of alts, many were pulled by a python script I wrote to get the communities they mod and look at the other moderators and tying them to the voting accounts.
I wrote about it here
While doing this she created alts like [email protected] and [email protected] to participate in my communities anyway after being banned.
Its creepy as fuck, so by the time I finally had enough of Lemmy I wrote a "pro hamas" post on a week old thread to see if they were still following me around to post on the various lemmy harassment communities and within one hour they posted it to meanwhileongrad. By the way, they are talking to themselves on that same comm here posting with their alts https://lemm.ee/post/65494823/20832743 this behavior is weird and unsettling.
Another user has collected the receipts https://lemmy.zip/post/21904442/16833845 @[email protected] @[email protected]
My internet friend toomanypancakes is not an "emmissary" of VTC, VTC no longer exists. Your behavior Sunshine is creepy and upsets me and I just want you to STOP. Delete the screenshots. Stop posting here, LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.
I will not use this account again, I have moved on from Lemmy but this was brought to my attention. I would like this thread to be removed and I am asking the admins of lemmy.ca @[email protected] to please remove this post. I do not want this to continue. I do not want users psychoanalyzing me. I just want this to stop and for everyone to leave me alone. I removed the instance so I am asking as nice as I know how at this point. You can email me for verification at [email protected].
@[email protected] please DM me an email address to send a formal request to purge my data from your servers if you would be so kind. I tried to fill out the form listed on your whois.
I am sorry that I, an Iranian born mizrahi, doesn't have right-think for the users of Lemmy. I regret using Lemmy and being subject to the culture of bullying and harassment here. I may say and think things that aren't approved by American western chauvinists, I do not deserve to be followed around, screenshotted and mocked because of wrong-think. If this is how Lemmy is, I want no part of it.
Feel free to write whatever harassment you want here. I will not be reading this again. I hope this thread is removed and I would like to exercise my rights to be forgotten or at the very least not highlighted and harassed by lemmy users. I do not have any other alts or use Lemmy anymore. I have a job, family and real-life friends to occupy myself with. Good bye.
This is so bizarre. None of these links back up any of these accusations. All the fire and passion of someone who is proving their case is there, but nothing is actually proved. There's a claim, and then a screenshot / link, but the link never lines up with the thing being claimed. It's all just either another thread full of accusations or else some random Lemmy-drama that isn't related to the claim.
I would ask for detailed proof (What is the output of the python script? You say it proved that Sunshine was using an army of alts, can I see the proof it created? That seems like that would be good to include as long as you're doing screenshots and etc.), but you say you're quitting Lemmy, so I guess there's not a point.
Got shut down after this post on MOG was made:
Which he (Hamid) responded to with this:
This was the last comment he made:
I think I am for real I’m done with Lemmy lol
This is the funniest part of the harassment thread
This comment is talking about Sunshine/Beaver who came to my instance after that. I had nothing to do with it 🤷♀️
tl;dr: he was sick of getting into lemmy drama
1 is fine. 2 is fine. That's how things work. I have no idea, though, how someone who reacts with 3 expects to be able to manage ordinary day-to-day life. Let alone weigh in on a situation of death and destruction and geopolitical crime against humanity. Like, if this is your bar for what makes you quit, your movement is going to be pretty fucking easy for the establishment to destroy.
I'm not saying that everyone needs to toughen up and put up with whatever treatment they receive. I'm just saying that, in particular since it looks like the #2 response was actually quite a bit milder than the #1 inflammatory original post, the DARVO reaction featured in #3 seems kind of needlessly extra.
the DARVO reaction featured in #3 seems kind of needlessly extra.
One fine example of such:
I looked up the context because I was kind of curious, and I really remembered why I don't go to those places on the federated internet anymore.
Well, partly because I am banned, but also because it is a hostile waste of time. They are both valid reasons I guess lol.
I don't blame them, lemmy drama is shockingly toxic as hell. I don't blame them removing the instance and retiring as admin.
Lemmy as a whole feels very toxic, i don't blame him at all and wish him the best.
I noticed that vegantheoryclub.org now redirects to that picture on imgur.
I mentioned that in the post :P
My bad. Me not read good.
Which he (Hamid) responded to with this:
That link seems to be broken.
Oops, sorry :p i can see it fine because admins can, didn't realize users can't. Here's a screenshot:
DING DING Hey Sunshine, get a life you fucking loser. It is weird that you are obsessed with me and have to follow me around on Lemmy but I would find something better to do with my time. I wrote this specifically on a week old inactive thread to see how long it would take for you to post this on your harassment sub you sick creep and it actually worked LOL. Having a difference of opinion about anything doesn’t mean you need to follow someone around and post about them and create drama. Making dozens of accounts so you can manipulate Lemmy is truly unhinged behavior. Get mental help you stalker.
This was under a normal megathread for the instance
Admin always wanted it to be a small instance for friends, he was pushed into federating by sunshine, who is beaver and several others as well by my understanding. Then the political situation in the US continued deteriorating, and between the risks, the stalking, and all the general harassment that comes from operating a public vegan community he saw no benefits to keeping it up and shut it down.
Admin always wanted it to be a small instance for friends, he was pushed into federating by sunshine
What the fuck are you talking about? When did this happen, do you have a link? This is bonkers.
sunshine, who is beaver and several others as well
What others?
I sort of hesitate to feed into made-up-from-whole-cloth Lemmy drama, which this definitely seems to be, but I'm giving you enough benefit of the doubt to at least ask for reasons for why you're saying this stuff.
This is true, it used to be a small whitelisted server. When Beaver/Sunshine/Ralimba and her compatriots caused a problem on lemmy.world I let them use my community. Sunshine then took it upon themselves to grow the instance and I regret allowing this. They set up a project in github, reached out to many admins to get endorsements in fediseer and spammed the fuck out of the communities with low effort blog posts. I wish this never happened, I will continue to set up a server for my friends. It will not be activity pub or federated with lemmy going forward.
Holy shit. This comment section is a train wreck.
possible Spoiler for Season Finale
I think all of you are just alt accounts from one and the same person who initially wanted to make Lemmy look more populated to draw in more users. But with time sanity went belly up and now the split personalities are fighting against each other.
Upvoting for thought-provoking spoiler properly marked as spoiler.