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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Just saw an ICE truck carrying a bunch of jackboots through Echo Park. Don't know where they're ultimately heading to though.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

hopefully they're headed to the Santa Monica pier, where they accidentally drive off the end and into the ocean

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Nothing a couple of well placed cocktails couldn't handle.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (6 children)

elon could do the funniest thing here and declare open rebellion against tyranny

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pregozhin half-assed it and now he ded

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Musk only knows how to do it half-assed - not that he'd be missed

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Buy guns, learn how to use them

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

On it. Now I just need friends. If you see a guy in green, that might be me.

I figure we need a suitable color to separate ourselves from the politics of yore.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Drones, everyone should be looking at fiber optic drones. If for no other reason than you can put one in the sky with a thermal camera above your home.

Hell it doesn't even need to have a fiber optic cable, having that information is very valuable.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Fucking newspapers these days, this shit is important.

https://archive.ph/3X3Fe

OK, so the same shit about "trump is going to". last I heard newsom was in charge of CA NG. Trump isn't allowed to bring them up without a declaration of emergency or whatever.

Just bullshit that they will walk back in the morning.

e: LA times and AP seem to think this is actually happening. This is the boiling point; are you going to sit in the pot or jump out?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Trump pulled off a lot of things he has no right to. Like deporting innocent people without due process to a death camp.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (20 children)

My only complaint (and I get to blame Regan) is that we can’t open carry here in Cali. That would help stop a lot of federal response if we had that capacity again.

I’m not for destroying government property since that’s property that belongs to the people, but I also respect that change doesn’t happen with complacency. Plus if it was a peaceful protest for Jan 6ers then why is this not considered one?

Every day I wish we didn’t have the current admin in charge since they lack capacity and bandwidth to take care of the real economic issues facing our generation and time.

Completely agree though that the national guard is in control of the governor. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Newsom agrees to bring them in if the feds kick in FEMA funding like they’re supposed to.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Open carry would have stopped NOTHING.

Flashing a gun at those GI Joe wannabes would have triggered their tiny brains to go into shoot to kill mode, and it would have been a massacre.

These dimwits are trained for full blown military responses. That's easy for them, they have the gear, the training, and the psychopaths to shoot on sight.

What they can't handle is massive civil disobedience, because they can't arrest 100k, 500k, 1 million people who are out there lawfully protesting.

But it's nutjobs like you, or that moron who sped their car at the agents, who will fuck it up for everyone.

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You act like I’m advocating murder. I’m advocating letting the government know that we can also have weapons and fight back. That doesn’t make me a fucking nut job, it makes me someone who has read a history book.

Civil disobedience has almost never worked, compared to armed disobedience. Even if those weapons are never fired. The point isn’t to go in shooting, it’s to get the military and police to back down and give the people what they demand.

You’re advocating for us to all roll over and wait until this administration gives us what we’re politely but firmly asking for. Which will never happen. They live for a show of force.

Keep holding your beliefs, it’ll be the last thing through your smug brain before the government executes you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Show them a gun and you better be prepared to pull that trigger the moment they see it, because you're going to die.

In a tense situation where there's been some minor violence, a gun will immediately escalate things to a lethal level.

Stick to what I said and don't make up stuff in your head please. I'm not against forceful opposition - rocks fly, things catch on fire, barricades get erected.

But don't give them an armed conflict where they will 100% win, and much more easily spin it to fit their agenda.

That's exactly what the Hamas attacks did - those fucking morons opened the door and put down a red carpet for Israel to get away with launching a full out "justified" war.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree. They bring guns to scare us. To let the protestors know there are consequences.

For them to deal with an armed populace let's them know if they start shooting, they might catch a bullet. They have to face that real consequence and it scares them.

Until that point, they pretty much know they don't face ANY repercussions for ANY action they do.

I'm not saying to start armed protests. But this isn't "flashing A gun" it's 50 or 100 people who could lay hundreds or thousands of rounds at or in them if they do start using their weapons. And it will scare them into second guessing whether their life is worth detaining a few potentially illegal immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

And, we outnumber them. Maybe not now with the amount of guns civilians own. But if the government starts shooting to kill random people at a protest. People will arm themselves and they will train themselves. The populace is a lot larger than police forces and military.

I agree with your points.

As someone who lived in Minneapolis during the "riots", peaceful protest was instigated by police in order to arrest and get rid of the people in the streets. Then the police went to the news and said it turned into a riot. So many examples of police being instigators. Shooting sandbags at people in their homes, pepper spraying from their vehicles when people were walking down the street in cross walks peacefully, people beat further when on the ground bleeding. I imagine how the police would have acted if people were carrying. Would it have been a bloodbath? Or would they have been too nervous to do anything?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is the correct response at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

With what? Left weapon at home.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Are the Europeans proud of our protests yet?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, Americans always defend their guns because they could use them to rise up against their government. So honestly, although normally considered impressive, you Americans raised our expectations even higher.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We have guns, but the government has even more.

There's not so much gained from escalation. Cameras are still the best weapon, considering how many allegedly sentient organisms still have support for Trump's actions. Media has claimed that "they're only arresting violent illegals", and "they're only using soldiers to stop violent riots". Regretfully, millions of people still believe that. The more evidence we can generate that both are untrue, the more that we can turn the tide.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

escalation is actually an amazing deterrent. protests from the early US prove there is actually a lot to be gained. they can be incredibly effective.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

And so it begins.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I would like to see California boldly and forcefully repel this invasion, but I don't know how it would work.

The California National Guard is part of the National Guard of the United States, a dual federal-state military reserve force.

When National Guard troops are called to federal service, the president serves as Commander-In-Chief. The federal mission assigned to the National Guard is: "To provide properly trained and equipped units for prompt mobilization for war, national emergency or as otherwise needed."

The governor of California may call individuals or units of the California National Guard into state service during emergencies or special situations. The state mission of the National Guard is: "To provide trained and disciplined forces for domestic emergencies or as otherwise provided by state law."

Role: Organized militia
Size: 24,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_National_Guard

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When I look at this as Trump and his gang deliberately inciting conflict with state/local governments in order to have an excuse to seize control from them before the next election, the situation becomes even trickier.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If the governor activates them first, it limits the reasons the president can activate them and override the governor.

Of course Trump would try to do it anyway, meaning the NG commander would have to decide who to follow (and let's be real, it would probably be the president).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I hope they're scared

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