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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like she is a bit naive about that. Racism is like a really big driving force that has lead us to where we are today, and it is still a huge part of the problem. But even if you snapped racism out of existence right now, I think that specifically the Gaza situation would only slightly improve. I think there are a few really critical things that you would also need to eliminate:

  • The biggest driving force in that area is religion, both Christianity and Judaism in Israel and the US (not all of them, but a lot of powerful parts of them) really want Jerusalem and Gaza as they are both important parts of the return of the Messiah if I remember correctly
  • Second and very close to first is power. For the US Israel is the Middle East HQ, supporting the Israeli government is basically non-negotiable. Only if the US government changes to one with actual morals (Yeah right) will they actually go against Israel. And for Israel it is currently with a government built on corruption that leans heavily towards extreme right and religious parties.
  • The rest are money, racism, and other common culprits.

I truly believe that if tomorrow racism was gone there would be very little difference in the overall situation, and this is not to reduce from fact that racism is a huge reason of how we got here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know why you are being downvoted because your analysis is on point. Yes it is racism, mainly on the US part, but religion on Israel part.

However, we should note that Israel treats semitic jews as sub-jews. So it's still racism, at its core.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's still people thinking that they're better than other people. Because of their skin, their heritage, their religion - that does not really matter. This all counts as racism. She's absolutely right, yet again.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (13 children)

$$ Money $$

There's no money in helping Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That's only kind of true. There's a lot of money that could be found in funding Gaza. As someone made a point elsewhere in this thread. Money was made in Ukraine due to us funding it and some creative accounting, but the smart money move was to allow Russia to invade and save money/exploit off the back of the chaos.

In an almost identical way the U.S. could have funded Gaza and made money dragging out the war, but it didn't happen because of decades of entrenched racism and Zionism.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (7 children)

that is drastically oversimplifying…
but i wouldn’t expect her to be able to sum that all up as a quick sound bite that’ll fit in a meme.

i’ll go with: she correctly identified one factor, but left out many other crucial details….

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

the full quote, which is actually quite accurate and succinct:

"Because of racism, that's the simple answer I would say. Racism, and uh, basically, desperately trying to defend a destructive deadly system, that systematically puts short term economic profit, and to maximize geopolitical power, over the well being of humans and the planet. And right now it's very very difficult to morally defend that, it is impossible, but still, they are desperately trying which is... absurd is not the word, but there are no words to describe it."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love that Greta's very existence triggers the right. You may not agree with her methods, but it's undeniable that she gets attention on the issues she finds important. She's doing more than me and anyone I know for issues I find important, and I admire her for that.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

that’s a lot better than the meme clipped it at

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's sad that this statement is true to the core, but I've seen statements and videos of Israelites literally claiming that Palestinians are not considered human. They are considered beneath, or less than human due to their belief, and that is how they are justifying their ethnic cleansing of the area.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dehumanizing is always the first step. Male them less than human and the people will let you abuse them. Once they get used to that, you can demonize the next group, and it will be even easier to get the rubes on board.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This is a naive way to look at a news article.

She may have elaborated further but do you really think the press is going print an essay over a sound bite? Especially on social media?

Greta has made longer statements on this, why not look them up before thinking you know something you don't?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who benefits from her elaborating? I think the one word quote does an adequate job of naming the problem clearly and making it recognizable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One word answers in a headline are almost always done with express intent of ragebaiting people on social media because it helps algorithms promote posts if people respond to them. Its not about clarity, its about ambiguity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

You're right about the intent, but it still doesn't diminish what I said. Racism also goes a long way towards explaining the methods that Western media excuses to rationalize violence against the rest of the world (see: all the reporting about Israeli airstrikes in Iran or the anti-immigration protests in N. Ireland)

The sooner we call a spade a spade instead of arguing over specifics, the less people will die.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm glad everyone is listening to her and not giving a shit about what you think

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

There are other factors. And they're all rooted in racism.

Even the corruption of things like AIPAC. It's racism weaponized via bribery and blackmail. I don't know what AIPAC is called in other countries and don't care. But I know it exists. And its all just racism.

There is no grey area here. There is no debate. There are no "buts" here. An illegal settler occupation is ethnically cleansing an indigenous population. There is good and evil. And the ones doing the slaughtering are evil. Categorically, ontologically, indisputably evil. Period.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The correct word would be chauvinism: racism is chauvinism based on racial differences, but it could also be based on wealth or religion, on food preferences or anything arbitrary...

chauvinism is the root cause for all evil in the world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I would argue that is misleading only because it removes the central operating mechanism of the West's massive accumulation of wealth and domination of global politics; namely, the ideological belief that not only are Europeans superior, but that they are superior as a function of immutable, natural characteristics that can be elucidated through reason, intellect, and scientific inquiry and observation.

To cheapen the global Western project of white supremacy by simply calling it a derivative of chauvinism belittles the intentionality and institutionalization of the cultural project and lends credence to the idea that Europeans simply did what any other group would have done under the circumstances. Besides the apologist rhetoric apparent there, it also gives ammunition to the argument that the descendants of these people hold no responsibility for inheriting such a legacy, and therefore have no incentive to stop its perpetuation.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 days ago (12 children)

she's not wrong, if it were white people that were being killed there would be more reaction

heck, trump made up a white genocide in south Africa just to make them look bad

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[–] [email protected] 193 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

Immediately after this she also says that short-term gains & geopolitical power (ie USA).

She just says that racism allows such a system to even exist.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel is the West’s ally so the West backs Israel

Ethics are only used to draw support to your side, they don’t really exist

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that's the main reason. Racism is probably a factor, but the main reason is imperialism. Israel benefits The U.S. and NATO strategically. Even if Gazans were, say, russian-speaking Cossacks instead, I think the situation would not be terribly different.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But imperialism IS racist at it's core though. The justification historically (and implicitly today) is these people are better off either dead or under our control, because they don't share our European bloodli- I mean values.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

What was the motivation when the Aztecs or Mongolians did it?

The motivation is not ethnicity. It's resources.

Always has been.

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