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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Progressive is the new democrats. You just want to feel better about things. It's not a necessity for you subconciously that things get better. You will probably be the next generation of boomers. Edward Bernays second set of children managing perception. It could be argued. There hasn't been much human progress.

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Immediately after this she also says that short-term gains & geopolitical power (ie USA).

She just says that racism allows such a system to even exist.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 week ago (4 children)

she's not wrong, if it were white people that were being killed there would be more reaction

heck, trump made up a white genocide in south Africa just to make them look bad

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (8 children)

She's not wrong, but also not 100% right. Racism plays a part, but there's also a good helping of "I've got mine" along with a whole lot of money tired into the military-industrial complex

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I think it's probably more the geopolitics, Isreal is in deep with the Military Industrial Complex, the US Intelligence Agencies, and the future plans the US has for the Middle East (namely the agreement between the US, Israel, the Saudis and India to create a trade passage through the area).

But yeah, if you look at Peter Thiel's work with Israel's intelligence R&D company Carbyne you'll find US agencies near by...

...and lots of these shadey dealing go back generations and have been done by Republican and Democrat Presidents. I think it was Obama who agreed to give Israel 38 billion to buy US weapons - an agreement which basically made the US the sole external supplier for their munitions.

I suppose beyond that it's historical, religious, and racial... But there's more to it than that.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

She explains exactly this, the meme just cut it all out.

youtube.com/watch?v=Hk1WEhO07Bw&t=759

Immediately after "racism" she also says that it's for short-term gains & geopolitical power (ie USA).

Continuous racism is what allows such a system to even/still exist.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Also it's brown people that are dying

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You don't need Israel for a trade passage. The US is trying to pivot away from the region to focus on East Asia, where China is. The US no longer needs the Middle East for strategic reasons as the US has developed its own Oil and Gas resources.

Israel is a liability for the US geopolitically. Of course there is a strong Israeli lobby and there is the intelligence ties, surveillance tech and the like. However i think this is more based on blackmail than a genuine need for the US to get this tech from Israel. The father of Ghislaine Maxwell, who ran the child rape circle with Epstein, had ties to Mossad and other intelligence agencies. It is quite plausible that Mossad has a lot of material on the people involved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I don’t know if the blackmail argument even works. Because we live in a “post-truth era” where no one cares if a politician did something horrible, they just move on or get convinced otherwise.

I feel like every argument for supporting Israel is a little flimsy. It just boggles the mind why anyone wants to support such a shitty little country that exclusively does the absolute worst

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's also the concern that if support for Israel is dropped, an Iran-led coalition will go to war with them. Israel being attacked is unimaginable to a lot of people that grew up in the shadow of ww2.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel is the West’s ally so the West backs Israel

Ethics are only used to draw support to your side, they don’t really exist

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Europe isn't doing much either. Especially Germany and Italy stay on Israel's side.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Germany at the very least are very overt about their "unwavering support for Israel" being wholly because they're "the Jewish Nation", which is about the purest Racist motivation possible.

One might claim, as others did, that for the US geostrategical concerns apply, but for Germany the only reason for their support of that nation whilst it murders Palestinian children is the ethnicity of the genociders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

it's ironic they used to genocide jews and now by trying to not step on their toes again, they once again choose the side of facism and genocide, same for Italy

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's doubly ironic that by insisting on the idea that a nation committing such a violent Genocide represents all Jews - and doing so against actual Jewish voices saying that "they do not represent us" - they're implying that all the horrible actions commited in this Genocide are Jewish things to do.

So Germany is back at associating being a Jew with some of the most horrible things a person can do AND at telling Jews that they know better what the nature of being a Jew is than the actual people who are Jewish and deny that Israel represents them.

Instead of Humanism were the duty of compensation is to the actual victims independently of race, they anchored their theatre of making amends on good old race discrimination and racial prejudice (only supposedly "positive") so naturally and as was bound to happen, ended up in their traditional racist tropes of "knowing better than Jews what beings Jew is" and "associating being a Jews with horrible actions such as murdering babies".

The folklore and symbology of Nazism might have been made illegal, but the way of thinking about other people as nothing more than members of races who should be treated differently depending on race, and which is the foundation of Nazism, is alive, well, and continuing to be promoted.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

So, racism.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Not sure if it is just racism here in NL or because the Ukraine war is more important for us here since it is a lot closer and more relevant than us.

The bullshit in the US is also something we have a bigger impact on than the war in Gaza even though we will have new elections soon.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Systemic is an important word to include. Systemic racism.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Nah. It's a war of religion, so even more stupid. Christians think this is all signs of the End Times and are counting on the rapture.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It can be both.

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[–] And009 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Brought to you by, racism (nepotism too to another degree)

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