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[–] [email protected] 144 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Zionist Corporate media framing this as a "preemptive strike" is Orwellian bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

Trump got out of the Iranian nuclear deal in his first term specifically so either Israel and/or the USA would have a "reason" to attack and go to war.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why do you need "Zionist corporate" in that post? Any media calling this a "preemptive strike" are pushing a bs narrative.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Because corporate media in the West, especially the US and UK complies with Zionist talking points.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 days ago

They have the right to defend themselves, right?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Grok received a big "both sides" patch recently

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't know I don't follow twitter. Just found it funny that someone asked it to explain in pirste speak

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've been asking this repeatedly since 2016.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

Lol I get the hate for Twitter and AI, but this actually got a chuckle out of me.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Neither did the Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not the people, but didn't a Palestinian group attack a concert dropping from parachutes? Then Israel ran with that to drop bombs on innocent children, iirc.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

If you ignore everything else from the last century, yes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Me when the #1 terrorism sponsor doesn't get to have nukes:

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The US and Israel already has nukes, they don't need to get them

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The US is the #1 sponsor, not Israel

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Israel does an incredible amount of terrorism at the behest of the US

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They’re the one being sponsored not the one sponsoring others

However as a UN recognized member they are committing war crimes not terrorism

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Israel is an extension of US foreign policy, it's much more than being sponsored by the US like Al Qaeda. Israel also does work with and sponsor the likes of ISIS and Al Qaeda. They are committing war crimes and terrorism, just as a state actor instead of a non-state actor

It doesn't seem like we're in any real disagreement here so it's all good, Free Palestine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

just as a state actor instead of a non-state actor

This is the difference between these two

war crimes and terrorism

But we are in agreement

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Huh? They have thousands of nukes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

And used them for the aforementioned terrorism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Step 1: Accuse nation of having nukes

Step 2.1: If they do not have nukes, invade them and dont even apologise for the death of hundreds of thousands

Step 2.2: If they acquired nukes by the time you accused them, sanction them to shit and use media to turn the land into a dystopian hellscape akin to North Korea or worse

Step 3: Create puppet regime if they ever fall, replace leaders with those that support laissez-faire

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Worked with Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, they attempted it with China and now it is time for Iran

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

usa does have nukes tho 😎

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I mean, they kinda did

they wanted to make WMDs first

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Israel has been saying this about Iran since the 1990s. All the nuclear inspectors say that Iran is following the standards.

Edit: see below. Some very recent reporting shows that they may not have been compliant (they were before). We will probably need more evidence to determine if they recently were not.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Israel has a larger nuclear arsenal right now.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Doesn't Iran regularly shoot missiles and drones at Israel? I'm not really up to speed but I'm sure there was something about an Iron Dome?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I might be wrong in this, but I'm pretty sure it's exceedingly rare for Iran to directly fire missiles at Israel, it's usually Iran-supplied proxies doing it (such as Hezbollah). It'd be like making the argument that anyone at war with a US backed nation/faction has a carte blanche to attack America

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Two of them. Israel is fucking awful but that doesn't mean I'm going to support authoritarian Iran.

2024 Iranian strikes against Israel - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iranian_strikes_against_Israel

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Iran said it was retaliation for the Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus on 1 April,[17] which killed two Iranian generals.

Iran claimed that the attack was an act of "self-defense"[19][20] in retaliation for Israel's assassinations of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, and IRGC general Abbas Nilforoushan.

Does it change anything if both of those attacks were after an Iranian embassy was bombed and an assassination in Iran's capital took place?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

No, because apparently Israel is allowed to step over the territorial integrity and sovereignty of any country, conduct illegal assassinations wherever they deem fit, destroy diplomatic facilities protected under international law, and anyone that claims otherwise is a dirty antisemite, khamas, and needs to be killed with a two thousand pounds bomb along with their entire lineage.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Right, so go on and support genocidal Israel, because it's soooo much better than authoritarian Iran.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Both are awful, but playing the centrist here doesn't cut it. Picking indifference is pretty much the same as picking the imperialist side, aka it's the same as supporting Israel and the US but instead of cheering them on you just sit on the fence and watch.

For those of us that live in The West™ the only thing we can change is the things our governments can influence. Thus, the only change we can enact as a population for the situation in the Middle East is the change that takes form by pressuring our own governments (and thus pressuring allied US and allied Israel) into stopping the madness. Going out and about and moaning about Iran is just useless posturing that won't lead do anything. Our governments are already trying to destroy Iran as is, what does me moaning about whatever Iran does even change? It's still the same shit.

And besides that, it's not even our business to enact regime change in Iran. Let their own people deal with it however they see fit. We're not savior knights in shining armors going around and helping people anyway. We've seen what kind of shit our governments have stirred up in the Middle East and North Africa before. We've only made everything worse for the people there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I actually think we agree.

Netanyahu and Khamenei are hateful men that use hate to hold on to power - each in their own way. They embody "Some of you are going to die but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make".

After about a year and a half of genocide in Gaza westerners were finally waking up and their leaders finally started to put pressure on Israel. Missiles in to Iran was a distraction and Khamenei took the bait - not because he is stupid but because he cares more about fanning nationalist flames in Iran than he does about the suffering people of Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Brother, I have in laws in Iran. The regime is a brutal pile of dog turd, but at least they have the decency to just cultural genocide the kurds and not do an actual one.

They aren't the good guys, they are the smaller pile of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

No, that is the people Israel keeps in their concentration camp.

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