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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

The germans are really something else, what innovation hasn't sprung from their imagination?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

We stand on the shoulders of giants etc etc. But it seems odd to me that they wouldn't think about using this for communication at least.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

It's not always immediately obvious to what end you can use a new innovation. For instance, the Romans discovered and built a steam engine. But nobody connected the dots that it could be used to power a train.

To me, it showcases the main reason why we need to collaborate. Only together, we can exponentially increase the potential of everything we build.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

Herons steam "engine" had no power whatsoever and was not scalable. And even if it would have been scalable, they had had no fuel to drive it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago

No fuel? All you need is something that makes a fire. And it is not like crude oil wasn't know to people back then.

If the invention had been further explored it is entirely reasonable to assume people could have invented a "practical" steam engine 2.000 years ago. All it would have needed is fixing the steam exhaust and have it drive a shoveled wheel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Imagine industrial revolution Roman Empire, thank fuck they didn't connect the dots.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_radio

By August 1895, Marconi was field testing his system but even with improvements he was only able to transmit signals up to one-half mile, a distance Oliver Lodge had predicted in 1894 as the maximum transmission distance for radio waves.

I suppose beyond the engineering know how required they were looking at possible transmission ranges and thinking it simply wasn't practical, square law and all that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

This.

There are often actual limits to what can be done, and there are practical limits. Especially in the early days of a technology it's really hard to understand which limits are actual limits, practical limits or only short-term limits.

For example, in the 1800s, people thought that going faster than 30km/h would pose permanent health risks and wouldn't be practical at all. We now know that 30km/h isn't fast at all, but we do know that 1300km/h is pretty much the hard speed limit for land travel and that 200-300km/h is the practical limit for land travel (above that it becomes so power-inefficient and so dangerous that there's hardly a point).

So when looking at the technology in an early state, it's really hard to know what kind of limit you have hit.

[–] [email protected] 155 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Faraday, after demonstrating how moving a magnet through a coiled wire induced a current in the wire was asked by a visiting statesman what was the use of this.

Faraday responded, "In twenty years, you will be taxing it"

Similarly, at a demonstration of hot air balloons in France, Benjamin Franklin was asked "Of what use is this?"

Franklin replied, "Of what use is a newborn baby?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 40 minutes ago (2 children)

That last bit is me when dealing with people who "aren't impressed" by today's AI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

The problem isn't the "AI". It is people praising its babbling as the solution for everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

I'm not impressed by today's AI and I also fully understand that the tech is going to completely upend society and will eventually be a part of our picture of utopia, or our picture of actual hell on Earth.

The people who are screaming it's wild wonders and benefits are at least as closed-minded as the people who think we're going to be able to put the toothpaste back in the tube. The actual direction this tech moves is going to be far more like the discovery of radio, in that at the time of it's discovery and early implementation, the people then had no idea the implications down the road and we're at the same point. Except the big difference and why this is contentious is that radio was far less dangerous to society broadly.

Radio was a fundamental force that always existed around us, we learned to use it the way our ancestors used rivers and waters to move goods and people. AI is completely human-made and doesn't exist without human engineering, so it's not neutral, it's a tool shaped by man to do whatever a man wants with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

"Mr. Franklin, of what use is this hot air balloon contraption?"

"You can take ladies up in it with a bottle of wine and a blanket and you know, they can’t refuse, because of the implication. Think about it. She's floating up in the middle of the sky with some dude she barely knows. You know, she looks around, and what does she see? Nothing but open air. 'Ahhhh! There’s nowhere for me to run. What am I gonna do, say ‘no?’"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like Faraday understood the... potential.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Funnily enough, Faraday seemingly also understood that the Electric Field only possesses a potential in the absence of changing magnetic fields. Because only in the absence of changing magnetic fields, the rotation of the Electric Field is zero, and only then it has a potential.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 hours ago

That's a really cool Franklin quote. Visionary.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Everything I've ever heard about Franklin makes him a boss. This is a new one.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Here's a little known fact that is not true, which will bring some nuance to the previous anecdote, Benjamin Franklin ate babies.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Another one that is true but sounds like an onion.

He enjoyed the company of GILFS

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Because there is no hazard of Children, which irregularly produc'd may be attended with much Inconvenience.

I didn't need to know Benjamin Franklin fucks old ladies because they can't have babies, but I appreciate the honor of carrying this information.

also the idea of a genius putting a bucket on the head of a grandma he fucks and telling her to act like she's 21 is HILARIOUS to me

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement.

That's my favourite part to quote.

When the lights are out. Pussy is pussy. And old pussy is often better. 😉

It's dangerously close to "In the dark a hole is a hole."

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Was he the guy that started that rental car company?

/s

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

This post tickles a fond memory of mine. I was talking to a right-wing libertarian, and he said there should be no research done ever if it couldn't prove beforehand its practical applications. I laughed out loud because I knew how ignorant and ridiculous that statement was. He clearly had never picked up a book on the history of science, on the history of these things:

  • quantum mechanics. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have semiconductors in his phone, or if he didn't have access to lasers for his LASIK surgery (which he actually did have), both of which are technologies built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • electromagnetism. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian was having his LASIK surgery and the power went out without there being a generator, a technology built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • X-rays. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have x-rays to check the inside of his body in case something went wrong, a technology built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • superconductivity. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have superconductors for an MRI to check the inside of his body in case something went wrong, a technology built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • radio waves. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have radio waves for his phone and computer's wifi and bluetooth to run his digital business, technologies built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Bullshit. Lasers have been intended to gain interplanetary superiority since the dawn of time. We just didnt know how to make them or that they could also be used to read music from a circle

[–] [email protected] 35 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

When talking with libertarians you should keep in mind they have completely different axiomatic values. It is often the case that they understand a certain policy would be on net bad for everyone, they simply don't care. They are rarely utilitarian about those issues.

I get along much better with libertarians who justify libertarianism with values extrinsic to just "muh freedom" -- they are usually much more willing to yield ground in places where I can convince them that a libertarian policy would be net negative, and they have also moved me to be more open minded about some things I thought I would never agree with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Those are much rarev in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like I hear about this guy once every second

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

which is about the frequency that the heart (german Herz) is beating with.

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