At least this is still you choosing when to update
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yeah, I just thought it was funny that ive been checking literally daily since I switched to Linux.
I struggle to only update once a week. I'd update daily if it weren't such a waste on the servers.
Its Wednesday and I'm fiending for my Friday update.
Do you have to restart? I'm finding that Fedora (KDE or not) is usually very restart happy.
Fedora updates the kernel and other packages that get loaded into memory at boot time more frequently than other non-rolling distros, which of course necessitates more frequent restarts.
Nah I dont restart unless its a massive update of tons of core packages
On fedora that is? Because "my" fedora want to install system stuff only during restart (if updated from app at least).
You can toggle that off in the menu if youre on KDE. I'm on nobara though not fedora so maybe its different.
Where exactly do I find that setting? But I fear it won't work with fedora.
Settings > software update > apply system updates . set it to immediately
When I first started using Fedora I hesitated to turn this setting on because, to me, it sounds like it's going to install stuff automatically without asking. I feel like it's badly named and confusing. Now I suspect they named it poorly on purpose because they really want people to restart to install updates.
they did because live patching has a lot more that can go wrong so they made the name reflect that risk. ofc you should get to choose so the setting is there.
its in the software updates page, I think its behind a button at the top
It's where @[email protected] suggested. Thanks both, I've set it to immediately and first update went without restart. Fingers crossed.
I don't think Debian has ever asked me to restart after an update.
I just want my software to leave me the fuck alone and update automatically. Why is this so difficult?
There's probably an option in your distro to automatically install updates, but it's annoying when that happens when you're in the middle of something or if they require restarts
As much as I hate to praise Windows, that's why they have "update and shut down" when there are updates available.
This is a thing in all KDE distros I know. Once Discover downloaded them, they will be installed on next shutdown / reboot.
yay --noconfirm && poweroff
I think you may have glossed over the "automatically" part.
Set up a cron job or systemd timer and have your computer suddenly powerdown.
Brother, I am not a programmer and do not know what any of these words mean, and am not interested in becoming one. I just want to use a computer. This is precisely why I can't use Linux.
If I recall Windows correctly, a scheduled task.
I don't know what that is either.
Both cron jobs and scheduled tasks are ways of making a computer do something at a certain time and/or date automatically without any user input apart from the initial inputting of setting it up.
You think you can't use Linux because you can't set up something to automatically install updates? Nah, don't worry about that. You really still can. You don't need to know what a cronjob is lol. (Just some commands that run on a schedule.)
Then how do you know that the magic spell I gave you doesn't do it "automatically"? Either you're lying and you actually a programmer, since we know you need to be a programmer to be able to read, or you somehow figured out how to read it without being one, but that would be crazy, absolutely crazy.
Anyway, if for some reason you need your system to decide when to update and reboot, there is an easily googlable setting for it, and if you just need to emulate window's "update and shutdown" button, I gave you it for my preferred Linux distribution, and it's not more complicated on all the other ones.
Because I know enough to know that commands don't run themselves.
Except from the cron job part. Which is exactly what that's for
I am not a programmer and do not know what any of these words mean
Well, "update and shutdown" button is a button, it also doesn't press itself. I hope you're being intentionally obtuse, at least this way someone is having fun
No, but the updates are downloaded automatically and the button is changed from "shut down" to "update and shut down" automatically. And I don't appreciate your unwarranted insinuations.
Kubuntu at least also has this option!
Never actually shuts down for me. Always have to shutdown manually after the update.
Not really going to debate the efficacy, just the concept.
Theres an option in Fedora KDE but it has never worked for me for some reason…?
Same.
I'm pretty sure it's a KDE setting somewhere as there are settings for everything.
It's choice vs force.
I like that on Linux I can install the updates and know that the ones that require a restart will just be ready the next time I restart at my leisure. And if I don't feel like restarting right away, it won't nag me about it and maybe just restart on its own if it decides I've put it off for too long.
And I can't believe my previous "solution" to that was to give ms even more money for win 10 pro (to get access to the paywalled settings) only to still feel like ms thought it was their computer that they allowed me to use.
exactly my thoughts. I'm in control here but it also does stuff the way that makes sense on its own whenever I dont mess with it.
When you run sid and update some times 7 times in a day 😁
But it's such an excitement!
Automatic updates don't give you the pleasure to see what changed and update and test new features out
Restarting is good for a computer's health, right? I think my Kubuntu laptop is the only machine in my house that averages less than two weeks of uptime
yes, iirc the general advice is to restart like once a week. its not a huge deal if you wait a little longer (two is fine) its just a guideline.
My CachyOS (Arch) desktop gets rebooted somewhat often because it suggests I reboot after some upgrades. I guess it's kernel upgrades, but I'm not sure which do and don't trigger that recommendation. Nor do I really know how important it is lol.