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Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran’s nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

But Donald Trump dismissed the assessment of U.S. spy agencies during an overnight flight back to Washington as he cut short his trip to the Group of Seven summit to focus on the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran.

“I don’t care what she said,” Trump told reporters. In his view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast 115 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's an idiot who has never been able to distinguish between his fantasies and reality

He's spent a lifetime making shit up, and never being held to account for it

He's a child, and what's worse, he has dementia.

He also lies as easily as he breathes. Truth means nothing to him. He sees being honest as a weakness

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just the person to entrust the most powerful military of the world with.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"But what choice do we have? Entrust the military to a lady? We'll take the dementia-addled toddler instead"

[–] FistingEnthusiast 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget that under the orange paint, he's white

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Didn't matter. Look at the three elections that Trump ran, and his performance against the candidate with a penis vs. the ones without one.

The American electorate will vote for a Black penis-haver (particularly if he is a baller) over any vagina-haver right now. They still won't say "I'm a sexist pig" in the exit polls, though, so we get reasons like "She didn't explain her policies enough" or "She wasnt authentic enough" instead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m just being hopeful, but I don’t think the vagina thing is as big of an influence as it seems. First, we only have a sample size of two.

One of them, Clinton, was just an objectively awful person. She wasn’t popular with anyone, including women.

The second, Harris, had an abbreviated campaign caused by Biden’s unwillingness to step down. She also wasn’t built up in preparation fora campaign during her VP term. On top of that, she was very unexciting policy-wise. Basically status quo when everybody is clamoring for progress.

Contrast that with Obama, who ran on “hope and change” and got people excited for actual progress. Which he didn’t deliver, but that’s another story.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He is. She is a Russian asset.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why tf would a fascist dictator give a rat's ass about "reasons" to plunge multiple countries into war? he wants war, that's what's going to happen

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbh this is not specific to trump. Gulf wars happened the same way.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

the difference is bush 1 & 2 made an effort to convince everyone their bullshit wars were justified. diaper fascist is literally saying "don't care"

the thing that'll shock me is if we're NOT at war within a month

edit: it took less than a fucking week....

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The truth doesn't really matter. Israel will get their war, and the US will lumber into it behind them.

What's crazy to me is apparently the US has become so polarized, so used to division that pointing out Israel is acting like bloodthirsty psychos is somehow supporting Iran, or Hamas before that. It's like their whole culture has evaporated any nuance at all. Only diametrically opposed good and evil battling forever. Professional wrestling stories with Heels and Faces divided by clear black lines.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is the only thing conservatives/fascists have left.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

First, weaken the commercial aviation in your country. Second, start calling everything terrorism. Third, start yet another war in the middle east.

Your guy is desperately looking for another 911.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's fine. Iraq didn't have WMDs either. They just need a lie to sell it to the public.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Quick, dust off the "weapons of mass destruction" propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Came here to say the exact same thing.

It doesn't matter if it is true or not (not just this topic) but if you repeat the lie enough and gaslight the public it becomes true, and if it doesn't so what, what are you going to do about it.

NOTHING that is what they are counting on.

Keep up the protests, the No Kings protest was huge even if MSM is downplaying it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

In [Trump's] view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

Those are clearly Netanyahu's words in his mouth. Netanyahu has been loudly and confidently saying that at regular intervals since 2012. Iran is always weeks away.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At the same time Isreal is like the only country that probably has nukes yet refuses to acknowledge it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Since the 90's

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are we now choosing to believe what Tulsi says because it fits the narrative?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (19 children)

The alternative is believing Israel's government...

And they're an openly genocidal far right government made up of violent religious extremists...

Like, America is bad right now

But Israel has been on some straight up Nazi shit for a while now, because both Biden and Trump let Israel do whatever

Saying Iran isn't building nukes is the most pushback Israel has gotten since Obama was in office

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wouldn't tryst Gabbard on this either since she's very likely a Russian agent and Iran is a partner to their war efforts.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On the bright side, though, if Russia is actively covering for Iran and Trump is aligning against that, then Putin might finally decide Trump has outlived his usefulness as an asset and send Trump some of his special tea....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Russia only cared slightly, Trump blocked Russian sanctions already passed by Congress and stepped in to stop Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil and Russia will not burn such an asset for a minor partner catching this kind of heat (or any partner, since they "don't have the cards" as Trump would say if he wasn't a complete pushover for Putin)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So we are gonna do the Iraq WMD lie again huh?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This season's twist is that the Intelligence community is claiming that there is no weapons. Unless the Intelligence community is doing reverse psychological on us.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

We have done this dance before last time it cost me my 20s my sanity and most importantly a huge amount for friends I loved like brothers who died before and are still killing then selfs..

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This whole thing still has me scratching my head.

Such a large portion of the West gets a raging boner about coming to Israel's aide. I get it from the strange doomsday cult belief where something about Israel at war triggers the rapture or some shit. But I don't really believe that's what the western world leaders actually believe.

Trump has his own reality, and only a divine entity understands what's going on in the space between his ears.

Ignoring Trump and the doomsday cult thing, the other things I can think of:

  1. US and Europe want an established western sympathizing military power in the middle-east. Some sort of remnant of the Cold war.

  2. US and Europe want a military western sympathizing military power with close proximity to the Suez Canal and red Sea, as well as the Mediterranean.

  3. The "Sampson Option" that Israel has is completely legitimate and Israel is ready to obliterate everyone if they don't get their way.

  4. There's some economic or strategic value the West won't acknowledge.

Even with all that, attack Iran? Iran is not remotely similar to Iraq. Iran will put up much more of a fight. It also won't be a "forever war" like fascists dream about.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Trump has always shown us he doesn't need intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

We have irrefutable proof, that we can't show you, that Iran is stoning babies in the incubators with yellow cake.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

America loves war. Simple as that. Bushes weapons of mass destruction was a guarantee that other nations had destructive weapons when they didn’t, but was motivation to get into a conflict that had nothing, zero, nada, zilch to to with the original reason of invading in the first place (911)

America is a disgusting whore of war. Actually they are good at starting a war, but similar to almost every man over 60, they have a hard time finishing, pull out, and leave the host to clean up their mess.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not only is trump ignoring this, but lots and lots of shitlibs on this site are also.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Why that damn bullet had to hit the firefighter instead?

I'm so fucking tired.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The moron just wants the war to hide his shenaningans at home. Sole reason. Everyone should know by now that he automatically denies any and every thing that runs contrary to his own personal narrative.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The more he dismiss America's intelligence agencies, the more i believe them.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

yeeeah... shrug, Trump ignores them all. And why shouldn't he? They didn't prevent him from happening, what's the point of the CIA, NSA etc when they either knew about him & putin, and let hit happen, or, they didn't know, even though it's been obvious since the 80s?

Nice job Intel community, you shot us all in the face.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Pretty consistently it's been reported that Iran has been increasing its capabilities to quickly create a nuclear weapon should they need to, rather than simply embarking immediately on constructing nukes.

And honestly, at this point, they'd be stupid not to, since the main negotiator (the US) of their opposing coalition has proven to be utterly unwilling to maintain any agreements regarding denuclearization for more than 4 years at a time.

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