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War is basically all logistics and the value Ukraine is getting out of their drone program is insane
Honestly when they’re done, that manufacturing capacity will do great things for their economy.
God knows we'll need every little bit to rebuild
The second it is safe, the second the war is over, I'm coming over and spending tourism dollars over there.
Love you. Greetings from elsewhere in Europe.
They'll need it because the war money will stop immediately. They're being funded only as much as it hurts Russia. Just like Afghanistan in the 80s.
Slava Ukraine. Be safe if you can. Wish I could do more to help. I tried to do some things with the digital forces but there isn't much left I can do that you all need.
It's what many says, Europe needs Ukraine for many reasons and a big one is (sadly), their knowledge about a mordern war.
"We need people from this big war to fight the next big war!" is the line of thinking that's going to burn everything to the ground, just like it did a century ago.
Between Ukraine/Russia, Israel/Iran, Britain floating warships off the coast of China, Indian and Pakistan firing on one another, North Africa in a decade long bloodbath, the US sending marines to suppress unrest in local cities... its not good folks.
Did they get that knowledge from 9 soldiers, one of which carries a cursed burden?
Then they can become the world's supplier of battle-tested drones.
The shareholders will benefit greatly from more war.
Never let a good tragedy go to waste.
And when enlistment keeps dropping like a rock they will give the suicide drones to our local PDs! :D
Do they manufacture them in Ukraine? I always assumed they got them for elsewhere.
Very much so, though they import lots of parts. Generally speaking the Ukrainian defence industry is operating under capacity because cashflow.
Ukraine builds rockets and the biggest airplanes in the world and has a vibrant IT sector, they can manage drones. Much of the Soviet high-tech design and manufacturing was Ukrainian, that's one of the reasons why Russia wants its colony back.
Given the volume they quote each year they either have sourcing figured out or produce at least some of the parts internally. Keep in mind, in FPV drones a lot of the tech is not some cutting edge stuff.
Some of the strikes at the residential complexes can be targeted attacks at distributed micro factories.
Ukraine playing it smart and understanding how modern warfare is done. Russia only throwing in more and more soldiers.
In Russia’s defence, who could have possibly have thought that invading Ukraine in the winter wasn’t going to be a simple 3 day weekend kind of thing?
If they assassinated Zelensky like they had planned, it probably would have been.
It works though, that's why they keep doing it. It's slow as hell and inhumane, but they can afford it for many more years I'd wager. Their capabilities of data gathering/transmission are much better these days as well. Also don't forget they set up wired drone production (in serious numbers at least) first, they can be smart at times.
Underestimating them irl is pointless.
A man fighting for his home is worth 100 fighting for someone else's cause. Russia was never going to win the numbers game.
I like to call it (Soviet) Star Wars: the Drone Wars (star for clarity)
Here's to a million more.
They don't all want to be there...
Then don't sign up. 🤷 Article says they are being given incentives to sign up.
This spring marks the highest rate of military conscription that Russia has seen in 14 years. In late March, Russian President Vladimir Putin issued a decree ordering 160,000 men aged 18 to 30 to be called up.
According to Ukraine's Eastern Human Rights Group (EHRG), at least 300 people from the occupied territories were conscripted into the Russian army in fall 2024
"After their training, many conscripts are sent to the front upon signing a contract with the Russian army," Lysianskyi says. This decision is sometimes voluntary, but often made under duress due to a lack of alternatives, he adds.
https://www.dw.com/en/how-russia-recruits-troops-in-occupied-ukrainian-territories/a-72289013
Russian authorities continue to conscript Ukrainian civilians in occupied areas or otherwise try to forcibly enlist them, including those in detention, into the Russian military
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/russia-forces-ukrainians-occupied-areas-military
"She explained that it was in a military camp, and that I would be like a caretaker with tasks like cleaning and cooking..."
But once in Russia, Samuel was in for a surprise. Instead of cooking utensils and cleaning products, he was given a Kalashnikov – which he accepted very reluctantly.
Samuel found himself in uniform without knowing exactly who he was fighting for, or in which unit. "The contracts they made us sign are doctored. We don't have a copy of the document, so we don't get the salary we were supposed to. Apparently, the Russian commander who made us sign gets part of it back, so it's a whole chain."
I was under the impression that many were outright forced to fight, as opposed to signing up.
Nope, by law Russia cannot use conscripts outside their own borders. All of them signed a contract to be there.
Russia also has the warped idea that Ukraine is part of Russia and they're reclaiming it, so who really knows whether any law is being honored.
Legally true, but there is of course plenty of coersion.
Desperate people do desperate things
The amount of money they get for signing on is so staggeringly huge, it is one of the drivers of the high inflation they are having.
Which means the money they get is less and less valuable the more people sign up.
The amount of money they are told they get for signing...
Some of it goes to corrupt commanders and various middle men.
Russia it was already a mess before but considering their median age, after a 1mln loss they're as good as fucked.
Putin doesn't care about his country, but Russians then?
They don't care either. The majority, that is, there are some good apples who left the bunch
For context, the America lost about 55,000 soldiers in the Vietnam War, which lasted about 10-12 years. Russian has already lost at least 600,000 in a couple of years.
The article does not say that there have been 600k casualties. It says there are 600k fighting in Ukraine.
Where did you get "already lost at least 600,000"?
I agree that the 600K figure is a mis-read of the article; however:
According to figures from Ukraine's General Staff, Russia has lost 217,440 troops since Jan. 1, 2025.
The discrepancy tallies with Western analysis of Russia's staggering losses.
"They lose somewhere in the ballpark of 35,000 to 45,000 people per month, and perhaps they recruit a little bit north of that number," George Barros, Russia team lead at the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), told the Kyiv Independent earlier this month.
I am generally inclined to believe Ukraine’s official figures of over 1 million dead, injured or captured Russian soldiers so far in this “3 day special military operation”.
Holy shit. Over 1k people killed every day? How the hell do you maintain any kind of morale?
You don't. You have lots of conscription to supplant your front lines. You do all sorts of corruption in the middle-ranks of the military, so junior officers can generate income off the desperation of their greener soldiers. You create an industry around the war, such that everyone hates it but someone is always profiting off the misery of others.
And then the machine grinds on.
Kelin was then asked about Russian army recruitment.
"I'm not a specialist in this area, but as I understand it we have 50-60,000 a month, those volunteers who are coming, recruiting, posting, and they would like to get engaged in this thing (in Ukraine)," he replied.
He did not explain why the size of the Russian army fighting in Ukraine has gone down despite what would amount to around 250,000 extra troops being recruited and sent to the front since the beginning of the year.
From I figure, basically by giving recruitment numbers and total numbers in Ukraine, the West can calculate number of casualties, which the West figures is 1 million. Remember casualties includes injured.
Ukraine has been keeping a tally of Russian losses since pretty early on, and it's been pretty much perfectly accurate.
Reminds of of that scene in tiberian sun when NOD installs the new AI
EVA: "Casualties rates unacceptable, this course of action -"
Anton: "stop, Activate the reprogramming"
EVA:"Casualty rates well within acceptable parameters"
I get the feeling they take ww2 loses before they even notice.
It alludes to the staggering number in the title and in the abstract but does not give the number which means it's clickbait.
The discrepancy tallies with Western analysis of Russia's staggering losses. "They lose somewhere in the ballpark of 35,000 to 45,000 people per month, and perhaps they recruit a little bit north of that number," George Barros, Russia team lead at the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), told the Kyiv Independent earlier this month.
I fall asleep at night watching Russian soldiers get droned. Helps me sleep well.