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I really don't like the design of the progress pride flag, and I couldn't really put my finger on it until I saw this: https://nava.org/good-flag-bad-flag

For reference, here is the flag I'm referencing as "bad flag":

And here is the original:

So, the original has too many colors, but it's the colors of the rainbow. In order. It's recognizable from really far away, and it's dead simple to draw.

With the Intersex flag, that's 14 colors. There are three shades of "purple". The circle won't be visible from far away. The chevrons are too thin to be very recognizable from far away.

It's not like there aren't good pride flags. Like there are AMAZING ones:

Edit:

In case you don't know what these are: https://flagsforgood.com/collections/pride-flags

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Aside from the design of the flags, scrolling through these ones felt a bit like a colour blind test. Especially the demi-flags.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

i just learned last week about the original lesbian flag:

and i gotta say it's amazing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Fair warning with that one, its really cool looking but mostly popular with trans lesbians and terfs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

meh I honestly kind of like it - I especially think the intersex symbol ties it together really well

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Rainbow flag is cool. 🏳️‍🌈

Due the spectral (is that said correctly?) nature of gender identity and sexual preferences individualized representation of every part of an infinite spectrum is, by definition, impossible. Thus a catch them all flag is the best in representing our diversity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

New pride flag

[–] [email protected] 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ugly flags & the LGBT+ community, name a more iconic duo. Like, I thought we had designers amongst us, whatever happened to them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

But you see, Graphic Design is their passion!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Why does everyone complain about the progress flag when the poly flag is right there and is terrible? Absolute garbage. Terrible color choices. Barely holds up to heraldic color rules. and Pi? Seriously? Get out of here you fucking nerd. 2/10, workshop it and come back. I hate it.

I'm cool with poly people, this is just the flag equivalent of biting your tongue when eating a burrito.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Aah bad flag jumpscare

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's the old secret code one. The new one is listed in this post already

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh yeah that's so much better

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I think it's basically just "feature creep." Too many ideas trying to be crammed into one symbol. And what's annoying, to me, is that the rainbow by itself was already supposed to represent everyone. That's why it is a rainbow.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It’s the same phenomenon as “LGBTQI+”

It was literally LGB at one point. I understand the concept of inclusion but I think pursuing it by appending and appending and appending is a lousy way to go. I believe the “Q” was finally added in part because it was hoped to be some kind of catch-all, but that didn’t work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

We could always use the GRSM acronym (Gender, Romantic, and Sexual Minorities)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I propose reducing it down to QT

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

You have reached enlightenment. The universe has no more secrets to you, young one.

You know too much.

CATCH THEM, BOYS !

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Maybe we should shorten it to Q++ 😅 (j/k)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

I guess I would like to schedule a meting with the project manager and/or customer to discuss the flag specification...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Its purpose isn't to be aesthetically pleasing. Trans people and POC are constantly discriminated against by other queers, and intersex people rarely are even acknowledged to exist at all, let alone treated as anything else than disgusting or sex object.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

This here boggles my mind. Why would you discriminate against others when you yourself know what discrimination feels like?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Some think they can curry favour by thowing the bigots a bone. The 'LGB drop the T' group can fly under a radar for a bit by piling in on the most hated upon group but don't seem to realise that they will be squarely back in their sights once the job is done...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Strange is the world of bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

This is my take too. I don't care how appealing the flag looks, but it needs to call out discrimination.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was poorly designed ever since they added the chevrons. The six colour pride flag was already pushing it with having six colours, but it pulled it off well and made it work. But anything else just screws it up.

Personally, I think adding intersex, transgender, black people(???) makes it seem as if they WEREN'T included in the original. I was always under the impression that the 🏳️‍🌈 flag included the whole LGBTQ+ groupings

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Same here, I don't understand the need to include ethnicity in a gender and sexuality flag. The flag was fine and already represented diversity. The fuck?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Also very america-centric. Different races are oppressed in different places.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, very America-centric because here in Mexico we've been fine with the former flag. We have arguably less of all the USAmerican-everything the flag stands for. 😅

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Thats way too busy. Should definitely just keep the rainbow flag. Not every little niche needs specific representation, just have the rainbow as a catchall for any kind of deviation from heterosex

Edit to add : if they want to use them to identify and specify within rallies or amongst themselves somehow then whatever, go for it, as long as we can accept the layman isnt gonna have a clue and cant really be expected to.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I thought the rainbow was supposed to mean it encompassed everyone.

The colours on the flag apparently weren’t sufficiently inclusive so perhaps this should be the next flag:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

But that doesn't include infrared or ultraviolet 🤣

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