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[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control. Most are who we already knew: Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah the entire US intelligence arm, really any public intelligence period, etc.

I vehemently disagree with those folks you mentioned but gotta say, not wanting to get involved in another war in the Middle East built on outright lies doesn’t make them Kremlin controlled. It’s other things.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm just saying that it's amusing the only anti-war Republicans in the administration and Congress are ones who've long looked, acted, and quacked like Kremlin assets:

  • You've got Tulsi Gabbard literally echoing Kremlin propaganda verbatim on Western imperialism (yet not making a peep about Russia's invasion of Ukraine)
  • You've got Tucker Carlson flying to Moscow, simping for Putin, trying to show how great Russia is in contrast to the USA.
  • You've got Rand Paul flying to Moscow hand-delivering letters on behalf of Trump.

There may be an intersection of my desire to not want to escalate for completely different reasons, and Kremlin operatives not wanting their ally and arms supplier to be crippled, but that is all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, but have you seen Russian grocery stores? They have food!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Im not currently impressed but may change my tune within the year

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

All of those things you mentioned? Exactly what I was referencing earlier.

Definitely a fair point with one of Russia’s key military suppliers potentially being crippled, I agree. There have been other republican detractors in congress who don’t fall into the same boat and, again, I’m not sure I can really fault Gabbard (in this very specific context mind you) for just reiterating what the US’ own intelligence is saying.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah real red blooded Americans want world war III

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Real Americans yell TACO at trump until he bombs Iran.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Anti-war people being consistent in their anti-war stance somehow means they're Putin's puppets.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, so Tulsi Gabbard definitely 100% publicly denounced Russia's unprecedented act of aggression and imperial invasion of Ukraine, right...?

... Right... ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do not conflate being against the war with Iran as being a Putin puppet.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To the contrary, I am conflating the fact that the alleged "anti-war" person (your words) suddenly wasn't "anti-war" when Russia invaded Ukraine as being a Putin puppet; that, and the fact that US intelligence reports found that Russia was promoting Tulsi as the Democratic primaries candidate in 2020, among other things.

Bystanders take note how this individual is trying really hard to separate Tulsi Gabbard from the Kremlin. Like, really hard. Deflections and all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't give a fuck about those people. What I give a fuck about is this:

Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control.

Is conflating being against the war with Iran with being Putin's puppet and is drumming support for the war. Stop supporting Trump's war.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never once did I say that solely being against war with Iran meant someone was Putin's puppet. Never. Either work on your reading comprehension or get your eyes checked.

What I did say is that those specific Republican members who are known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives. This much is clear.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sounds like something one of Putin's puppets would say.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is just "the anti Vietnam War protestors are secretly working for the soviets" for the modern era. There were just as many conspiracies that left liberals were secretly agents of Moscow in the 60s.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some right wing influencers have already been shown to take Kremlin money

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, and there were plenty of left journalists on the payroll of Moscow in the 60s. They tended to cover the civil rights movement and anti-war movement very positively, does that mean the leaders of those movements were also secretly agents of the communists?

Has there been any proof that the people OP mentioned have any connection to putin? Don't get me wrong there all horrible people, but it's not because there "Russian assets" and if they're gonna go against this God awful war then good on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, many of those leaders were communists... But not agents of the Soviets, which was a convenient accusation tho

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I’m going to respond to a later comment of yours here for the sake of visibility.

Tucker Carlson flew to Russia to interview Vladimir Putin last year. That trip was financed by Tenant Media - the same group that was revealed to have been financed by Russia for the sake of spreading Russian talking points. Justin Trudeau gave testimony under oath that Tucker was shilling for Russia.

It is more challenging, generally, to show that politicians are illegally taking money from foreign interests because the pathways by which money is publicly disclosed are more well-known. So the pathways through which money may be hidden can also be followed to disguise the source of income. Unless one gets caught.

As did an aid of Rand Paul’s, who helped funnel Russian money into the RNC during the 2016 election, and whom was later pardoned by Trump, at Rand Paul’s urging.

As far as Gabbard is concerned - no money trails, but even her own staff think she’s compromised.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What are they going to do? Record 3 hour video of p*tin narrating imaginary history?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, they'll just use AI to do that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Russia's basically already on two fronts and just lost a huge proportion of its strategic bombers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Iran is their ally yet they’ve allowed Israel to strike Iran with out repercussions so they’re sending a lot of mixed messages

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“Very negatively” as opposed to what? Mild negativity?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Saber rattling, very menacingly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That's Russia and China in a nutshell. Trump does it too, but that's just because he's mimicking daddy Putin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

A stern talking down to?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have to think at this point the White House is just like two armed camps. The people that work for Putin and the people who work for Netanyahu. Few years ago I'd say they were sharing an uneasy truce, maybe even a burgeoning friendship, but now? God I hope they tear themselves apart.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget the 3rd camp of military industrial complexists, just in it to make money bombing whoever wherever

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure that's the Netanyahu camp.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

trump really forgot the only reason he has a razor thin congressional majority, is Russia blackmailing Congress members into supporting him

Putin can make them all stop supporting trump just as easily.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Putin this in my Putin wishlist.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no are they going to lose another million soldiers about it and crash their economy even harder?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Killing Khamenei would be a bad move. That's how martyrs are made, and they are already dialed up to 11 in Iran, so there is no reason to pour even more oil in the fire.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

translation from Russian: they will keep bombing schools and hospitals in Ukraine, but now it's going to be a "reaction" just because they were provoked

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hate war.

But if daddy Vladdy is mad…

I still hate war.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Putin has already requested that Chuck Schumer write a strongly worded letter on his behalf.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh no. Anyways I still hope he gets the Gaddafi treatment and still don't want America to go to war with Iran.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America just did go to war with Iran.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Eh, they're still doing the announced tit for tat. Like after soleimani got schwacked, they lobbed missiles at a US airbase and that was the end of it. It's saving face by doing something in response, but also not actually escalating by not inflicting any significant damages.

So, despite how ridiculous it looks calling for peace after an exchange of missiles, that's probably what will happen. The only confounding factor is Israel and that may be the catalyst to sparking more conflict.

The fact that Trump is under the thumb of Israel, who want to obliterate Iran, and putin, who doesn't, is entertaining to say the least. It's a complete crap shoot how this ends up overall.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Khamenei is weak. Maybe he wasn’t in the beginning, but he has been for the past decade or so. Killing him is risky for US and Israel as that may potentially give Iran another stronger leader. Russia doesn’t want change either as Khamenei is known and manageable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Meh. I don't see much steering room for their course. It isn't Russia by the way, it's Putin and his regime.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As long as they control the government, military, police and other stuff putin and his regime are russia. If russians don't like that they can make their own Maidan.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Russia is very afraid", Peskov said. "We cannot afford to lose an already weakened partner in a region where Russia is losing more and more influence" he proceeded.

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