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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The CDU and SPD see cars as sacrosanct, and Germans living in the outskirts are not only world-class car brains but are literally the source of the car problem for central Berlin while not suffering from 90% of the consequences.

If everyone in the city got a vote I would say there was a chance, but since it's going to be the Germans only, I don't see it happening.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

~~All EU citizens can vote in local ballot measures.~~

Edit: but not for Berlin, Bremen or Hamburg. Womp womp

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is that Berlin is a Land, so it doesn't count as "local" for elections. For the same reason EU-citizens can't vote for the Abgeordnetenhaus (city assembly) of Berlin, only for the Bezirke.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

Whoever wrote this does not know anything about berlins policymakers...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought they used the metric system? Everything is so Americanized now they just refer to things in multiples of Manhattans?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In fact we use Saarland as the official measuring unit. One Saarland is ≈ 43 Manhattans. Or, to be more precise, one Manhattan is 23 Millisaarlands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

2.3 Centisaarlands for people in construction

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Football fields were the compromise

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

"American Football" is such a mouthful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

But there too you have imperial football fields and metric ones, with an imperial one being 0,745 metric ones.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I've just been to Berlin last week. There are barely any cars in central Berlin anyway. Whatever they do it's already working without the need for a special regulation (and associated problems of trying to legislate everyday behavior).
They do lack pedestrian streets, but that's not the issue here.

I'm afraid this move will just be seen as politically antagonistic without any real benefits.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you ride a bike? Berlin is good for pedestrians (in many parts) but often life-threatening for bikes.

There's defenetly worse urbanism in many other places but that doens't make ours good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

No I didn't, but I did notice a relative lack of dedicated bicycle infrastructure. Not the worst ever, but in too many places the bike path shares space with a pedestrian sidewalk.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are barely any cars in central Berlin anyway.

Can you specify which "central" Berlin? the "center" or rather centers of Berlin are many and big. And most of them are choked full of cars. The government district and Tiergarten, which is a big park are a bit of an exception. Although there is the whole roundabout the Siegessäule with 5 or so three lanes per direction, streets leading off of it and regularly being full with traffic.

The center West around Zoologischer Garten and Kurfürstendamm is a complete car-brained nightmare and the center East around Alexanderplatz is until Brandenburger Tor is a bit less crazy but still quite a bit. However when you get to the streets leading up there, it is complete madness.

For the Siegessäule see the picture and imagine it to be mostly full.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Berlin? Last week? No shit, me too!

I went to see Linkin Park 🤘

I'll agree that the traffic was not bad at all. I was expecting much worse! But given how good the public transport system is there, I think if I lived there I'd only ever use a car to travel out of Berlin rather than within it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Found out about the concert when I tried to visit the Olympic stadium and it was closed for visitors 🙂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Did you happen to be there when traffic was blocked off in the centre, by any chance? Because there are shit tons of cars around usually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Its funny when europeans complain about carbrains. They have no idea what north american car brain looks like

I was told italy was very carbained yet they have trains going everywhere at very high frequencies and i felt very safe walking around everywhere when i visited

I am not suggesting that europeans wait until it gets really bad before complaining about the problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

GUESS WE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD DODGE RAM TRUCKS IN A SMALLER FACTORY BOIS THOSE CLEVER EUROPEANS GOT US AGAIN

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago