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This is a tough one. I have an autistic child. I love that they’re curious, but sometimes, for all of our safety, I can’t explain why I need them to stop talking about a dangerous subject… for now.
Great. I love that you’re curious about bombs. We’re in line for security at the airport. I need you to be quiet now.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
The neurotypical urge to not have a good enough answer and then bully the autistic person for asking the question.
(Not a comment on the post, just a frustration)
This is part of what I call "the allistic disability". They always tried to make us believe we are disabled, but are we really?
are we really?
In many key aspects of day-to-day life...yes, we absolutely are.
It was a joke.
I understand that there are hardships linked to our condition, but many of them are not caused by our condition, rather by the world not willing to accomodate us the same way they accomodate NT's.
That's the same with most disabilities. For instance, blindness does have some intrinsic hardship, but then it also has the hardships that come from a society that assumes you have vision and does not accommodate you.
Imagine if an evil villain could delete all of the times in human history that an autistic person thought "why" about something seemingly unimportant WAYYY too hard?
Fuck... would we even have shoes? Toothbrushes? Washing machines? ..idk It would be a devastating attack upon humanity in terms of pure capability, technology and knowledge, that is for sure.
I am not saying all of the important discoveries were made by autistic people, just like we all know that we have met some autistic people (wait, you ARE one of those people aren't you!?) that are extraordinarily smart in their own way, and you can see in the people around them that they are such a powerful, clear lucid mind that they are loved and supported in their quirkiness because they move mountains (or don't). As it goes with all minds that are different in one way or another.... but certain machines and weapon systems... I just feel like... there HAS to be at least ONE autistic person behind that shit! Probably a lot of other kinds of minds too! Hopefully!
To anyone who hasn't met those autistic people or is unaware they have, damn I am sorry those people are incredibly fun and illuminating to talk to wtf. Not that anyone in this lemmy community would fall under that category, just making a point like I get so mad when people attack autistic people for so many reasons, but weapon systems are a big one that is hard to argue with, weapons aren't clubs and swords these days they are fiddly, super complex electronics warfare sensor ridden monstrosities... and they NEED the people developing and using them to understand the kind of horrifyingly long manuals some autistic people eat for breakfast while humming happily to themselves.
...and people dare to pick a fight with those people and their friends????
"I have a great idea let's have a moral panic about autistic people and ostracize/punish/seperate them out while denying them the care they need (established by science) AND THEN try to fight wars using shit like this.....
???
TL;DR People are silly
I'm frankly not of the opinion that natural human curiosity should be described as autism.
It's like, what, let's not have science? Let's not have history? Let's not have medicine?
This is actually kind of bad because it encourages "normal" people to not ever question anything
What's with this new trend to label normal behavior as somehow related to ADHD or autism? Only morons don't want to know why ffs
Peeing is also normal behavior. But it's not normal if you have to pee every 30 minutes.
What's with this new trend of invalidating ADHD and autism symptoms simply because you don't experience it to a degree that impacts your quality of life?
ADHD and autism don't have one specific symptom. It's a thousand little things that drive you insane from having to conform to neurotypical behavior.
Let patients share their experiences without normalizing and invalidating their condition.
It's always 'everyone has ADHD these days' just like how people day 'everyone is LGBTQ these days. It's never 'underserved and underdiagnosed ADHD patients are finally getting recognition these days'.
Boys are 16x more likely to get an ADHD diagnosis than girls. The vast majority of backlash against ADHD patients on social media are against women and PoC who are finally speaking out against the medical neglect. Women traditionally present different symptoms because girls are punished more heavily for exhibiting ADHD behaviors than boys are. Same goes for autism.
Remember that a lack of diagnosis does not indicate the lack of ADHD and autism. Modern medicine is rife with systemic inequality. Undiagnosed ADHD and autism patients are frequently penalized and not rewarding for concealing their symptoms. The more effort they put into concealing them, the more heavily criticized they are for 'faking' it.
I see you guys are taking this way too seriously so ok... I'm not invalidating anything, and for that matter I haven't noticed any such trend in media either. In fact, I would go as far as to say that attributing "normal" behaviors to ADHD and autism is ultimately what invalidates these conditions. My initial comment stemmed from me seeing meme after meme about ADHD and being like, wait I'm like that too, maybe I have it. But then as this trend goes on I observed that most of the people I know also have - to some degree - most symptoms mentioned in said memes. In short I bet if one were to base the description of ADHD on the memes going round, most people could get a positive diagnosis. My personal opinion is that this has to do with societal expectations when it comes to education and employment as they have developed over the last couple of decades. We are slowly recognizing that our capitalist way of life with its pursuit of infinitely increasing productivity is not in line with human nature thus we're "creating" this condition that somehow everyone is suffering from to attribute feelings of inadequacy.
I see you guys are taking this way too seriously
Who the hell are you, the arbiter of what is and isn't serious?
Yes. I am the author of the post and I decide how serious it is. Who the fuck are you, the friend with the cleft asshole?
Lol no, you don't get to decide how other people are allowed to feel about your opinions. Also wtf is a cleft asshole??
It's a reference I didn't think you'd get but maybe someone else wasting their time reading this whole conversation unfolding under this silly little meme might enjoy.
To use your logic, you don't get to decide how I interpret the responses to my comment. So if you don't like what I said you can give me your little downvote and kindly fuck off unless you have some meaningful retort about my actual opinion on ADHD & autism diagnoses.
To use your logic, you don’t get to decide how I interpret the responses to my comment.
That's correct. So if you felt like others were taking your words too seriously, then say that. Without the reflection at yourself, in the English language you're telling others how they should be feeling rather than saying how you feel. I hope a grammar misunderstanding is all that really was.
And for the record, I do regret coming on so strong. I've been stressed today and this is not the first time in the past 24 hours I've realized too late that I could have been more diplomatic. So, sorry about that.
Can't be worried about that shit man, life goes on :D
I guess I take it for granted - while it may not be so obvious to others - that when I say something, that's just like, my opinion, man...
So with these 2 quotes I end my big lebowski reference streak
Adhd in particular is a very "everyone can relate, only people with adhd have their lives crippled by it" thing. To some degree this applies to many mental disorders (e.g. everyone has some anxiety).
The need to know why is clearly not a normal thing or I wouldnt have had the frequent experience of people getting mad at me for demanding the why or, which is still utterly confusing to me, for explaining the why when asking someone to do something.
As a child I used to annoy the hell out of my mother, by asking why... I'm a scientist now. Now I wonder why, as the pay is shit 😂
As a child I used to annoy the hell out of my mother, by asking why
This is true for literally every kid. All kids are born scientists but many lose interest or get frustrated over time
Shout out from IT: pay is good, working there today is shit (agile) and confusing as hell.
IT is fun until management comes in and wrecks the place with a load of time-consuming demands absent any reasoned justifications beyond things that don't concern IT.
I am currently reading into the religion of ancient germanic tribes. Sadly WE HAVE NOTHING! EVERYTHING IS LOST TO TIME!
We have a few names, but that is basicly it. Roman and christian sources are heavily bias so they cant be trustet
Always. I always must understand why something needs to be done before I do it. Rare exceptions in people I have an absolute trust to make decisions for me.
I couldn't cook a damn thing until Alton Brown showed me how/why cooking works.
Then I learned about all the types of cooking and why they work.
Then I looked at how the Michelin chefs do it and why they do the things they do.
Now I cook pretty well and occasionally pull off something way above my skill level.
Good Eats was an amazing show. Amazing, fun, educational! Loved it
Yeah that was the same for me. But I used Salt Fat acid as the book that I used to learn how to cook
This is why I need internet. Every time a question pops up (like etymology of some word or what is the native range of some bird or other obscure stuff) I can just search for the answer. Sometimes the information doesn't exist, but even that is an answer, just not the one you wanted. Obviously it can also spiral into finding so much interesting stuff that you forget everything else and do couple hours or pointless research into subject that doesn't really matter, but that's not a downside if you look at it from a certain perspective.
What I really don't understand is how so many people end up wondering about some facts in a conversation, then everyone goes "huh, that's a good question" and just drop the subject and talk about something else. It usually takes less than a minute to do a quick search and everyone has a phone these days. So... how? How?!
What I really don’t understand is how so many people end up wondering about some facts in a conversation, then everyone goes “huh, that’s a good question” and just drop the subject and talk about something else. It usually takes less than a minute to do a quick search and everyone has a phone these days. So… how? How?!
The normie urge to blindly accept without question.
As it turns out, inexplicably, this is not a trait that works out well within corporate America... Source: Of course I know him, He's me.
Yes. I can't help that everything is fascinating to me...
