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This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
Protest non-voters accounted for maybe 800k, while RFK accounted for 1.3m.
But sure, let's keep blaming voters instead of the Democrats that chose to represent Republican Liteβ’.
I'm informing protest-non-voters what they actually voted for.
Ok, so protest non-voters accounted for 800k of the non-voting population in 2024.
Want to know how many didn't vote not because of protesting?
About 36% of eligible Americans didn't vote either D, R, or 3rd party in 2024. That's about 120 million Americans. 800k is less than 1% of 120mn.
You know these numbers, and you're still telling me that the protest non-voters were the issue: not that Democrats lost 8 million voters between 2020 and 2024?
Why do you think Democrats both failed to capture more voters despite the eligible voting population increasing from 2020 to 2024, and hemorrhaged their already existing base?
I'll wait for you to draw the conclusion that best suits your liberal comforts.
How do you know how many people who didn't vote did so because of protest?
6 MILLION MORE PEOPLE voted for Biden than Harris. That's a lot of people who just magically disappeared for reasons other than protest by your count. They weren't just undecided swing voters, either, because Trump's votes barely changed at all between 2020 and 2024.
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Republican lite at this moment sounds a lot more refreshing than Republican nazi
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I totally feel this frustration, and I'm not US so it's kinda not my business, but I don't buy this argument.
Trump America is a horror show, for sure. But the status quo before Trump is also the foundations that allowed America to become a new facist state. Any real solutions need to be bigger than what middle of the road Democrats are offering.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't vote against Trump. But the system is clearly broken, stop blaming victims of it, and start blaming its perpetrators.
Status quo of Biden implementing Green energy, EVs, build back better, PACT act, chips act, student debt relief, Obama's healthcare. And you're equating this to .... status quo.... , and .... a foundation of a fascist state. ........
I'm 100% not equating Biden with Trump. I'm not trying to deny the comolete horror Trump is afflicting of US and non-US citizens right now.
I'm just saying, he's a symptom of a broken system. America will only come out of this situation if it recognises that it needs to make real and lasting change.
The non voters might not help, but they're at least acknowledging this reality. And putting them in the same camp as literal facists is not helping anyone.
I'm not saying that you're equating Biden with Trump. I listing off all the accomplishments of the Dems that you are bizarrely trying to call status quo and whatever gymnastics to cram it into "foundations of fascism" something system.
And you are continuing to try to do this. The Dems were making "real" changes to improve society. But you're still trying whatever this mental gymnastics is.
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I agree at this point they need to storm the white house, jail everyone, burn down the white house and constitution and start over.
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Oh, no doubt, but a worse foe lurks! Some people voted for Donald Trump.
Ha ha but You voted for Genocide!
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So did the protest non-voters, even moreso than the Democrat ones.
The non-genocide position was literally impossible to express no matter what you tried to do.
No it existed. Harris is on record saying she'd like to work towards peace talks.
Which is objectively better than option B: vote GOP "finish them off" and option C: literally doing nothing.
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Maybe they think the flooding wonβt affect them on their moral high ground.
Can we give this rhetoric a rest? The voting system, the enforced lack of alternatives, hell even really the people who voted for this shit are all much more to blame than people who didn't vote. Or how about the fact "Multiple Republican-led administrations removed voters from their states' voter rolls in the lead up to the election"?β―Or the fact you don't even vote on the week-end, which is what pretty much all civilised countries do, to give more chances to more people especially poor people to get to the voting stations?
On top of that, how can you know what people who didn't vote would have voted for? Some of the states with the lowest turnout are one that are historically considered more conservative-leaning (Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, Missisipi, Tennessee). The results could have been "worse" (whatever that means, given the shitshow that is the Electoral College).
Really, it feels like it's so much easier to blame a subset of people than to confront the fact that, in the US, the majority of the population appears to be for an autocratic asshat who has claimed they wouldn't need to vote after they vote for him. The US population, as a majority, appear to want this. More people voting may not have changed anything about that.
It's not surprising that voter turnout is now when you have an unhealthy democracy (because it is a symptom of it). This is a bit like blaming people for eating unhealthily when all that's available to eat is unhealthy: you're not wrong that it's bad for them, but what the fuck are you actually doing do provide better options? So rather than blame those who didn't vote, for any variety of reasons, get organising. Low turnout is a seed that was planted a long time ago.
Fuck no, no voting protest voters are part of the reason we have this sweeping fascist rule in our country. So no, they don't get a boo hoo pass on that shit.
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Nope, got another 3.5 years of reminding protest-non-voters what they voted for.
I donβt often use internet lingo, but the people yelling into the void about βnon votersβ are 100% doing what the internet deems, a βcopeβ
Inventing an invisible boogeyman to yell at because things are bad makes them feel better.
Quick edit: itβs frustrating how downvoted you are for being correct, honestly.
Thank you for this :')
And in 12 months' time, the voting system will allow just one option. Great move, guys... great move.
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The people who did not vote for Harris destroyed all chances of ever getting a better candidate.
Why isn't it the people who didn't vote for Stein? The reasoning works the same.
At the end of the day, you are a hair away from "anyone who didn't vote from my preferred candidate sucks". But guess that's a lot more obvious when you are from a country that isn't entirely a two party system.
Because realism exists and Jill Stein is an even worse disaster than any democrat. Just marginally better than republicans.
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They'll never claim an ounce of the responsibility they deserve, the fucking scumbags
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Whaaaaat...?
The party who put a coal lobbyist in charge of the EPA for Trump's entire previous term did this...?
Nooooo.
/sarcasm
At some point, all one can do is laugh.
"christians" just do not give a fuck about kids unless they're touching them or oppressing brown ones smfh
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Probably a blessing in disguise. If they were funding climate research it would almost certainly be fraudulent science.
They had a corps of competent people with civil service protections who were getting paid out of that budget. They avoided committing fraud during the first Trump administration
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