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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of the reasons lead paint chips were frequently eaten by children was because they tasted sweet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Oh what, so that's not an exaggerated story? I always thought that's hyperbole

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i could use some brain damage to get me though the day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

oooh ooooh leeeead sugar ♩

I believe you can get me through the daaaayyy ♫

[–] [email protected] 167 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hahaha, what a bunch of morons, sugar isn't even good for you!

[sips sugar-free microplastic energy-slurry]

Buncha dummies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Artificial sugar still causes an insulin response. Better stick with the vinegared lead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Artificial sugar also triggers hunger. That's why you often see people with a diet Coke in one hand and a Snickers bar in their other hand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

fwiw I found that the caffiene in diet sodas was the cause of Xtra hunger. Switching to decaf soda made a huge difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Actually it appears to be the carbonation that increases hunger, thus even sparkling water can do that. Below is just one study but there are several.

Study links drinking carbonated water and weight gain | UCLA Health https://share.google/2IY4mv5lu6VpELD2n

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I wear a CGM (not diabetic, just a weird nerd).

I can assert that artificial sweeteners do not, in fact, affect insulin at all (at least for this n=1). After a Coke Zero, Diet Coke, or Ghost Energy, my blood sugar remains unaffected for hours (if no other calories are introduced).

Corn, however, in any form, fucks my shit up, blood glucose-wise. Way more than any other starch. No idea why.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

As a T1 diabetic, artificial sweeteners don't affect my blood sugar either. Caffeine does, though, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you eating sugar free corn ?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Huh? No, corn definitely has sugar in it.

What I mean is, a portion of corn or corn products causes a WAY HIGHER glucose spike with me, than does an equivalently sized portion (by weight or volume) of white rice, beans, milk, or even chocolate cake cake. I don’t know why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Corn sugar is made up of a pretty large amount of glucose, so eating corn is like eating one of the shock tabs. Which is also a good way to confirm that it's glucose; rice, beans, and chocolate cake all contain pretty small amounts of just glucose, the other sugars need time to break down.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I believe they were making a joke about sugar free corn

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Oh I’m an idiot. Good night!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Maybe ease off the sugared lead a bit..

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

And thanks to Patriotic Jesusy Murkan Small Government, soon you won't know if it's in your kid's Halloween candy.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not having zero, they couldn’t have computers and thus social media, so they had to improvise

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Yeah, well we pumped it straight into the air for everyone to breathe in. We painted schools and nurseries with it as well.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Ah, the good old days. Before those evil woke leftists ruined everything!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It has a mildly sweet taste and also causes brain damage

Well... but so does Jack Daniel's. Interestingly, the Romans were aware of the dangers of lead poisoning, including that it could cause madness - which they called "plumbism" (plumbum being the Latin word for lead). Kind of like we know about the dangers of alcohol, flavored sugar water, and many other things we consume wantonly. Like us, they apparently just didn't GAF.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lead and alcohol are on completely different levels.

There is no way Romans understood fully the damage lead does and how it accumulates in the body.

Also alcohol is presumably consumed by adults only, while this sweet shit was probably given to children too which makes it even worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What makes you think it was for children?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Sugar does that too you know. Better and cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

For pretty much the entirety of ancient history "sugar" and "cheaper" do not belong together in a sentence.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (5 children)

With the US asbestos comeback, are we getting Sweet Lead now too?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What is the mechanism ? Why does it taste sweet ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When lead combines with acid it creates lead acetate which interacts with the sugar receptors in the mouth. I'm not sure why, I think the molecules just happen to have a similar shape.

EDIT: after looking at the molecule for lead acetate, it appears to resemble two simple carbohydrates connected by an atom of lead, so I'd imagine the receptor sees the outside and assumes it's something sweet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They also used lead in their makeup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

And we used lead in our paint, gasoline and water pipes.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Lead in wine as a sweetener is believed to be why Beethoven was deaf

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They had a lot of names for it.

"salt of Saturn"

And a lot if uses.

How much would cause brain damage, and how much brain damage did the average Roman have?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One thing that's overlooked about the Romans and lead exposure is that they did have organic forms of oral chelation available, which helped mitigate the effects. The most commonly quoted version of which is eating garlic, but many foods and nutrients can either decrease the amount of lead you absorb from the other foods that you eat, or increase the amount of lead that you excrete, which decreases their effects on your body and brain.

Of course, these foods by themselves are not going to completely remove all of the lead in your blood, but it would have reduced the amount, so it's not like they were completely raw-dogging lead in their wine.

https://lead.org.au/fs/Foods_for_Lead_Detox_A-Z_20150214.pdf

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Man, as if I needed any more reasons to eat even more garlic.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How much brain damage would a brain damaged Roman have if a brain damaged Roman could have brain damage?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They also thought tomatoes were poisonous because the water in them would pick up the lead their plates were made from

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tomatoes are a New World plant. The ancient Romans didn't think they were poisonous because they had no idea what a tomato was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I got it wrong. Some watery vegetable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was probably another nightshade plant. Eggplant maybe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I'm thinking cucumber

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