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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago

I haven't felt patriotic for July 4 since I was a teenager. And I grow more aliented every year.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's been decades since I've cared about the 4th as an actual holiday. Now it's just a day that I don't have to work.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Good day to march on your White House, perhaps…

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Celebrating America hasn't been something to be proud of since before 2001. We had a couple of high points during Obama, but nothing that tipped the scales.

I'm personally disgusted by this place, and anytime I see someone with an American flag anywhere on their person or property, I immediately assume they're a conservative and I think lesser of them. I know that this isn't a reality, but that is what the American flag means to me, and I assume quite a few others.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What the fuck would I have to be proud of? The US has been on a downward trend for a long time and that's accelerating

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Aww. Please celebrate - don't give the orange turd the satisfaction of destroying yet more American culture. Also, I won't be happy posting my favourite annual meme:

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm going out to a march on the 4th of July. We're protesting for independence from America

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

"Come all ye young rebels And list while I sing For the love of one's country Tis a terrible thing It banishes fear with the Speed of a flame And makes us all part of The patriot's game...."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I'm not doing anything for the forth. Fuck America, I am not celebrating my country, because my country wants me dead. Fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

There's nothing left to be proud of. Just vague platitudes about freedom and performative military worship that have been socially beaten into people since 2001. I have no faith remaining in my fellow countrymen. I am unable to clearly see a future for myself living here as I am now. What is left to be patriotic about?

All the true patriots are dead. They were buried long ago. Modern patriotism is a marketing gimmick. I refuse to be a party to it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

What, exactly, should I be proud of?

A nation that is moving backwards on human rights, increasing wealth inequality, and got really “mask off” about supporting genocide. A nation that is inherently dysfunctional and wreathed in corruption.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Yep. Staying home, donating, or protesting if something’s going on. It’s just a long weekend to me now. No flag flying at this home for sure… unless it’s a No Kings flag.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Patriotism leads to nationalism and racism. Fuck patriotism.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

4th of July? You mean the Ungrateful Colonists Insurgence Day?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

The ONLY reason I give a shit about July 4th this year is that it’s a long weekend and the last chance we’ll have to spend with family before we move out of state in two weeks.

I’m even glad it’s supposed to rain the entire time, so I won’t even feel pressured to celebrate with fireworks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Lot of people I know are staying home, Generally on the 4th, for the last decade trumpers get black out drunk and end up killing people with their boats and gaint trucks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I find it reassuring that some people are not proud of grabbing random people off the street to send them to their death with a smile.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I haven't "celebrated" the fourth in nearly a decade for this reason. On top of that fireworks are pretty bad for everything and those with PTSD.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

FYI the Women's March org is hosting "Free America" protests for the July 4th weekend. See the Women's March site here. Some other groups may be organizing protests too, but from what I've read the WM ones are probably the biggest.

If there's not a scheduled protest nearby there's always the option to make a sign and take to a street corner for a solo protest. If you're feeling especially ambitious there's always making a giant sign to prop up against the chain link at an interstate overpass (I've never done this but it looks fun).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I'm not celebrating patriotism. I'm celebrating a 3 day weekend.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I get double pay for the holiday, yay!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I'm feeling patriotic enough to burn US flags and I'm not even from the US!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I live abroad, so I can just ignore the whole stupid thing. 😄

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've never felt patriotic. It's not like I chose to be here and, frankly, the more I learned about the rest of the world, the more I dislike about my own home.

Also fireworks are boring af unless you're manipulating them to be more dangerous and blowing things up. Like hammering down a whistler and tossing it into a porta potty where an ICE agent is taking a shit.

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