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An Anti Hero is basically a good guy who is kinda bad, or does good things for bad reasons. Deadpool's a classic example of an Anti Hero

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Fred Flintstone Garfield

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Iirc, the original definition of an antihero didn't mean a bad guy you root for. It meant a hero in the story that didnt embody the traditional heroic traits of courage, strength, faith in God, noble morality, etc. The antihero is the hero who is not really heroic - a hero who is kind of just a normal person. An example of this being Don Quixote - a man who spent his time fighting dragons and rescuing princesses only in his imagination.

These days, almost all heros outside children's books are antiheros. Because true heros are flat and one dimensional and unrelatable and don't contribute to an engaging plot. These days, it isn't thrilling enough for us to hear how the knight slew the dragon. He must first overcome... I dunno, his childhood trauma or something.... And then he can slay the dragon!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

I just recently started Don Quixote and have only just made it into part 2, but he doesn't really strike me as a hero. Maybe in his own head he thinks so. He's certainly the protagonist, but from what i've read so far, he's been rather antagonistic towards the people he interacts with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone in the Expanse. Naomi, Drummer, Fred Johnson, Bobbie Draper, Chrisjen Avasarala, Monica... Obviously, Amos, Peaches, Miller, and even Holden.

All of them do reprehensible things. Some did them and made up for it. Some still do them to win.

[–] Semjaza 1 points 2 hours ago

Really? Holden damn close to the platonic ideal of a reluctant hero, with a strong moral compass.

He wobbles a bit later with all the PTSD, but generally always tries to do the right thing the best way he can.

Naomi and Bobbi too, Naomi did bad stuff in her back story, but she's much sutlrer of herself and her sense of right and wrong due to that. Bobbi possibly a very mild anti-hero as she can lean a little blood knight, but not quite anti-hero in my view.

Drummer and Fred Johnson are much more morally grey, and start out as more antagonists than they end up being.

Avasarala is similar, but she's also a magnificent foul mouthed mother. She can get anti-hero status for sure.

Amos I think is more of a villain protagonist (dueteragonist?) than anti-hero.

Miller is anti-hero in the Shinji Ikari type.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Didn't see him posted yet, Walter Joseph Kovacs aka Rorschach.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
>does good things for bad reasons  
>gluttony is considered by many to be bad

kirby. kirby is my favorite antihero

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

To be fair, after the swallowing he sometimes puke. It's not a total sin, but just a eating disorder.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Leto II. Deadpool was already taken, so I went with a more controversial example.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Isn’t this just a hero?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Saint Luigi 🙏

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After watching Andor, I guess Luthem Rael fits that title. Dude's absolutely savage. Forced to use the tools of his enemy to fight for freedom that he'll likely never experience. He sacrifices good people on order to protect the whole

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It's also established that's he's an accelerationist. He's intentionally baiting the Empire to crackdown more brutally on dissent in an effort to forment rebellion among the common people of the galaxy. He fears that if he does not do this, there will be a day when the Empires grip is too tight to escape.

"It will burn... Very brightly"

In the end, he was right. The Death Star vindicates his methods. Without Luthen laying the groundwork for the Rebel Alliance, the Galaxy would have been a boiling frog and the Death Star would have led to its brutal oppression for generations.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No mention of The Punisher?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think he has an automatic negative connotation just because of his many cops etc idolize him, but he's a fantastic character. In the (Uhh I think) daredevil show and comic he knocked DD out, chained him up with a revolver, and said shoot me or I will assassinate this bad guy. Like "you wanna do the 'killing is wrong' shtick? Welcome to my trolley problem, bitch."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

many cops etc idolize him

Which is ironic, considering what he really stands for.

Netflix's version portrayed by Jon Bernthal is trully amazing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Darrow from the Red Rising series. I think he fits the bill a bit, but he does flip flop between hero, anti hero, and villain, so maybe not a complete fit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I got halfway through the second book and it just wasn't what I wanted anymore. My brother told me to keep going but it's been a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

To be honest, I've only read the first three. I was very happy with how it left off and my gf says that the other two are hard reads. I still make sure she doesn't spoil anything, but I'm unsure if I want to leave it where it is and be ignorantly happy, or read further and see what happens.

I may revisit them when the series is complete.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

V from V For Vendetta

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Raistlin Majere from Dragonlance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

This post approved by [see username].

[–] Yareckt 1 points 21 hours ago

Woyzeck. Such an obviously bad character who is weirdly relatable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I've got to go with a classic in Tony Soprano. He's a real piece of shit, and yet I can't look away.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woody Harrelson's character in Zombieland was perfect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That'll do pig. That'll do.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Peacemaker!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Beatrix Kiddo "The Bride" from "Kill Bill".

Sooo evil, but you just have to love her.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, the sinister toe wiggling

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vegeta embodies the rage that all of us feel and has one of the best character arcs of all time IMO.

he had his entire life stolen from him by the monster that took him in, not out of pittance, but out of a sick sense of entertainment.

he then spent the next 20-ish years trying to become stronger to complete his desire for vengeance, and even then he wasn't enough.

he literally had everything stolen from him. beaten from him. was mocked relentlessly because of who and what he is. they took everything but one thing. That one thing that could never be taken from him. His pride.

I learned so much about myself as a person as I watched his character develop. I keep a figure of him on my desk to remind myself of how far I have come and to protect my pride.

he is, by far, one of the most influential characters in my entire life.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Add the fact that he becomes a decent family man and you have one heck of an arc.

There's a hilarious canon scene where Vegeta proves to be a better dad than Goku (granted that doesn't take much)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

yeah...Goku really is a piece of shit dad.

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