Great job Texas you are a nice warm up for how much of a disaster this year will be.
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Remember TX , climate change is a myth and you should worry about the scary immigrants instead of looking at your infrastructure.
imagine voting for trump and then he directly causes the death of your child
i guess at least we don't have DEI anymore... fucking /s
didn't you hear, democrats have a weather machine and are making this for... reasons
Note that many impacted are in blue areas of Texas.
There will still be Texans that won't believe in climate change. Drill baby, drill, as they say
Innocent people, mostly poor, were the victims. Politics and election results aside, this is awful and not the time to be gleefully vindictive.
Are the Trump cuts to NOAA and FEMA helping or not?
My mind has been so poisoned by the vindictiveness of US culture since 2016, that I genuinely read a headline like this and a big part of me is happy it's the other side that got hurt. Like wtf happened to me.
Hurt people hurt people. (The cycle of abuse)
Is FEMA helping, or is the melting mango fart withholding money like he did for Sarah Huckasand's state? Maybe if Greg Abbott were a little hotter and let creepotus fondle his bussy he'd get some funding.
FEMA's disbandment was postponed until after the hurricane season. I have no idea if they are going to help or not because it's been so damn wishy-washy with these idiots that people are literally dying now because of their extremely stupid decisions. Chip Roy, who is completely in favor of all of this chaos is now down there trying garner sympathy for his extremely poor choices and leadership. It's his district. He will get his sympathy because somehow this will be blamed on democrats, liberals, the woke, or all three. We also see Gravy Seal Supreme Dan Patrick in army cosplay for the occasion down there too.
This is a tragedy, and unfortunately the general sentiment I've seen online from trumpers is that "this is not natural" and "this was an intentional geoengineering attack by the democrats". MTG has already introduced a bill that:
prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity. It will be a felony offense.
This is the worst timeline.
Made worse by the hijacking of the Magic: The Gathering acronym by Marjorie Taylor Green.
That is a shit policy. That wording means that planes can't be used to pour fire retardants onto blazes, and likely many other useful practices that I don't know about.
You can also flip it the other way and force chemical companies to completely stop dumping of anything into the air because their burning waste causes acid rain which has been scientifically proven and is known to alter weather negatively. I'm sure all of her petroleum constituents would love that.
So the combined efforts of 8 billion people can't change the climate, but the democrat party can? Do they think it's full of supervillains or something? Oh fuck. They probably do, don't they?
Do they think it's full of supervillains or something?
Remember, with these types, every accusation is a confession.
EDIT - clarification: They're attributing nasty supervillain weather-control powers to the "Libs" because, were they themselves in possession of such abilities, they'd gladly use them in such terrible ways.
As a progressive, I would LOVE to have these mythical powers that Turdpublicans think me to have. Sadly, I can't turn off wildfires or make mosquitos stop sucking.
Climate denial should be seen as the same as being a Nazi. People are actually being harmed and biomes are being destroyed.
Their behavior is such a disservice to the victims.They simply couldn’t admit to being wrong about climate change. It’s painfully disingenuous. And will create more victims in the future as magical thinking and conspiratorial voices are elevated
Wasn't that introduced to counter ideas about geoengineering against climate change?
Like solar engineering and stuff like that? It makes sense from the perspective of somebody who denies man-made climate change to not have people tamper with this.
I don't think the claim of this resent event beeing an geoengineering attack and the bill you refer too are connected. At least not as far as I understand it.
the Guadalupe River had risen about 26 feet in 45 minutes.
Goddamn...
I do feel bad for anyone who was affected by this who did not support Trump and his dismantling of the weather services that could have prevented this.
However, for anyone who was affected who voted for Trump and supported his dismantling of said programs? Fuck around, find out.
Don't think the children voted for Tump.
And literally the first sentence in my comment addressed that chucklefuck you're not being clever you're just being a gotcha-seeking asshole.
Unfortunately, even with better forecasting, it wouldn't have been possible to predict exactly how much rain was going to fall or where in a storm like this, but just two days before all this started, they were literally predicting sunshine this weekend in Central Texas.
There's a huge element of randomness in this kind of storm, where one area gets 15+" of rain while 30 miles away they only get 3", but a warning that excessive localized rainfall was a possibility would've been helpful.
I also blame the local government. Central Texas is flash flood central due to our geography, and all local governments should have emergency preparedness plans to send out push notifications to people in their areas. This all went down in the middle of the night and happened so fast that the local government got caught totally off guard though
Silly human, push notifications are for hunting cop killers, not saving lives from floods!
/s.
The federal government has been dismantling weather systems left and right. Those systems could have given valuable minutes of warning. Flash floods do happen, but even 10 minutes of warning can pretty much save everyone.
The reason they did not have this warning is because of Donald Trump, And then after him every single republican politician.
The federal government has been dismantling weather systems left and right. Those systems could have given valuable minutes of warning. Flash floods do happen, but even 10 minutes of warning can pretty much save everyone.
All this is true
The reason they did not have this warning is because of Donald Trump. And then after him every single republican politician.
This is not clear. What does a warning from the NWS look like? Because they issued them:
At 4:06 a.m. the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio posted on X: "A very dangerous flash flooding event is ongoing." It ended: "Turn Around, Don't Drown!"
Then, at 5:15 a.m. the National Weather Service San Angelo posted on X that there was a flash flood emergency. The Austin/San Antonio office posted on its X account about the emergency at 5:23 a.m. This type of alert is "exceedingly rare" and used when there is a "severe threat to human life and catastrophic damage," according to the National Weather Service.
But how does this message get to people who are asleep? The best answer is the Wireless Emergency Alert system. I haven't seen any information one way or the other indicating whether this system was activated in a timely manner. If it wasn't, that was a serious mistake that costed lives.
Let me be clear that cuts to the NWS are going to end up costing lives. There is no doubt about that. But I think it's important to understand the reality of a situation rather than reflexively blaming Trump
Edit to add the NYT is reporting on specific vacancies at the local NWS offices that were dedicated to communicating with local officials. Probably a serious contributing factor here to the word taking longer to get out
With regard to the girls camp that is in a flood zone, I imagine it would be part of the job to provide a safe experience for children by monitoring danger.
Yes
I agree with your points but it is extremely frustrating that they also are killing the science to try and have better predictions and not even bothering with managing climate change which will make these kind of events more frequent and more devastating. I am sure you already know but it is so damn frustrating. People are dying and it only is going to get worse.
I very much agree
You sound like a preacher who says that natural disasters hit us because of homosexuality.
Good people help communities, no matter who they are. Good people don't cheer or act smug when had things happen to a community. There are dozens of young girls missing after their summer camp got swept away. It is very possible most, of not all of their parents were trump supporters... none of the children voted for trump. This isn't a point for your team, these are lives destroyed.
Yes, if this happened in California term trump would make it clear he doesn't care, and his supporters wouldn't flinch. But those are despicable people, pity them and show them how we should respond to tragedy.
Texas Trumpers/Republicans strongly voted for a president & governor they knew would:
- defund climate research
- slash FEMA budgets
- slash NOAA budgets & weather funding, including early warning systems.
- go on an general anti-science, politically-motivated defunding spree Texas Trumpers/Republicans:
- cheered it all on, especially when it upset scientific groups, researchers, liberals, greenies
- watched with glee through 2016-2020 as it the de-funding caused or heavily exacerbated many disasters
- voted it back in for 2024, knowing full-well that even stronger defunding anf political zealotry was planned this time round.
Homosexuals:
- were gay
That person: the Trump voters involved got what they voted for, I feel sorry for everyone else.
You: you sound like those preachers that say gays cause earthquakes.
What a terrible analogy. People are allowed to vent frustrations, especially when 'taking the high road' has proven to be completely ineffective in changing the opinions of conservatives, and especially ineffective against fascists.
Feel sorry for the victims and their families no matter who they are. However, do not pity any of them if they come out and blame anyone who isn’t part of the Trump administration or Republican Party because they stripped a vital service of resources that could have potentially saved some of these lives.
They don't sound like that at all. The Trump admin has been dismantling and defunding NOAA and FEMA. FAFO.
Is the Trump admin a good community you are so desperately preaching about?
Is the Trump admin a good community you are so desperately preaching about?
No, and I never said that good people help good communities. Good people help communities in need.
If this flood hit Mar a Lago and destroyed everything in it's path and only killed people who are a part of the administration then I would be cheering. The people directly causing the issue would be the ones getting the consequences. However, that's not what would happen because there are housekeeping staff there who just need a job, there are families who are on vacation there (some likely reluctantly dragged there by a maga spouse or parent). And so, if there's even a chance that a single innocent person is in need, then every effort should be made to help.
Innocent people are in need and they do need help. So why are we cutting funding to NOAA and FEMA which do the things that you want? Blood is on the hands of Trump and everyone who voted for him.
fascist govt will do nothing to help, blame it all on brown people, and call it a day.
then maga will say "mexicans did this to us!!" and increase their hate further
it sounds stupid and absurd, and it is.
welcome to amerikkka
I’m sure the cuts at NOAA and NWS didn’t have anything to do with worsening the tragedy.
At least 43 fatalities have been reported so far, Kerr County Sheriff Larry Leitha said at a news conference Saturday evening. The dead include 28 adults and 15 children. Twelve of the adults and five children are unidentified, Leitha said. At least 27 campers were missing, Dalton Rice, Kerryville city manager, said.
This is such a tragedy, so many of the dead and missing are kids.
Global climate change is a HOOOOOCKSE!
You get what you vote for.
Kids can't vote. You are one degree away from advocating collective punishment.
The tragedy is that most of the time, the vast majority of people who vote for that shit doesn't suffer the consequences immediately or at all.