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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pixel 6a, since it doesn't say in the title or preview.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Mine is fucked since the last update, the quick switcher flat out doesn't work anymore

If I wanted to flash a new ROM what are the options these days for backing up app data etc?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you have root, try neobackup (fdroid)... But don't put too much faith in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks yeah it's just standard sadly

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Get a USB-C pendrive. Put all your photos/videos/documents on it. Write down the apps you use on a paper, or take a long screenshot of your app drawer. Anything cloud-based will carry over anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Between ROMs? Basically none, unless you're rooted. Each one has its own (stock has Google's, GrapheneOS has seedvault).

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I have this phone (6a). I put in the survey to get the 100 but so far I haven't seen a single $. Meanwhile I'm sitting on a fire hazard.

If they just made replaceable batteries, this wouldn't be an issue. My next phone is going to be the fairphone.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm waiting to get a new phone until the EU battery requirements go into effect in a few years to see if replacing battery becomes easier to comply than it is now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Afaik the Pixel 9 would qualify under the new rules. So that's the bar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well, great, but the fairphone is like 2 months behind on security patches, and they generally never do more than 1 OS update (for comparison, my pixel 7 has gotten 3 now, and with the 2 more years of support its likely to get 5 in total).

So basically instead of getting a phone that works for 8 years, you get a permanent security liability that is more likely to get water damage.

I mean sure, great idea, I would buy a phone with inferior CPU if I can support something good, but instead of something good I'm getting something inferior in every aspect just so I can change the battery in 2 years when I won't need the phone anyway because they just abandon any kind of timely updates anyway??

(BTW, I checked, the fairphone 5 is to this day still on android 14, a 2 year old OS. They could not care enough to update a 2 year old phone in 2 years except the legally necessary patches, they can't even release a monthly patch, and yet I should trust them with my most valuable data?)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My pixel phone is a ticking bomb.

You can put other OSs on the fairphone instead of their defaults.

But yeah it's frustrating no matter what there is a downside of just owning a stupid phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can put other OSs on the fairphone instead of their defaults.

Calyx only releases patches when Fairphone releases them. They are therefore just as bad with updates, while completely managing to hold up with the pixel releases in a timely manner.

My pixel phone is a ticking bomb.

Maybe you shouldn't have lobotomized yourself. Anyway, since you did that already, let me remind you that you can get a battery replacement for like 50€.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Calyx only releases patches when Fairphone releases them

There are other roms than calyx and stock you can put lineageos on it and they are great with updates usually within a few days of a patch coming out they'll push an ota

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Replaceable batteries from next year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope. Waterproof phones (so everything that Costs more than 50€) are excluded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oh, you're right, it's 2027

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Replacable as in "not permanently glued into the phone". You'll still have to be an expert to take it apart without damaging it and replacing the battery with new one like you do now with every phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nope, the law specifically states you have to be able to remove the battery without any special tools.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A tiny screwdriver and a sprunger aren't special tools

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're tools as per the EU law

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now I'm confused. Does the law say no special tools or no tools?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let me not misrepresent. As per https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/docs_autres_institutions/commission_europeenne/com/2020/0798/COM_COM(2020)0798_EN.pdf

Waste portable batteries incorporated in appliances that are readily removable by the end user without the use of professional tools shall be removed and discarded by end users in accordance with paragraph 1.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

From that wording, I'd think it would be legal to ship a phone that requires a screwdriver and a sprunger to replace the battery. I guess we'll find out the first time this is challenged in the EUs courts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

And some phones already have replaceable batteries.

It's so silly, we are going back around.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

Stupid manufacturers. Would be a non-issue if you could just slide open the battery door, pop it out, and recycle it, like we could over the last 2 centuries. (The D battery was introduced in the 19th century).

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I opted for the $150 payoff and reduced battery capacity instead of a battery replacement. They made me sign up for Payoneer, who is going to take $39 plus whatever transaction fees they change. I bought this phone directly from Google, they could have just refunded my credit card.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Get ready to install a custom rom without the battery patch.

The patch they put out for the 4A basically bricked the phone. Battery life was halved, and the charge indicator was practically useless (the number could drop massively within minutes), making the remaining half battery unreliable as well.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's gotta be the most American thing I've ever heard - your refund going through a third party who takes a 30% cut. What a joke.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's to deter people, that simple.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A civilised country would've regulated those kinds of anti-consumer practices decades ago. The heck are you lot doing?!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The heck are you lot doing?!

We tried to fix it by voting in a bunch of Nazis, but then that didn't work, so we voted in some more Nazis and that didn't work either, and now we're not sure what else to try.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The obvious answer is that we're just gonna keep voting in more nazis

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yep, I'm not impressed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's Payoneer's annual fee

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Crazy, makes me wonder why they picked that service.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I guess my IMEI isn't eligible even though it's a pixel 6a, they mentioned the 4a had two different battery manufacturers and only one was a problem but they didn't say the same for the 6a. The battery doesn't seem to last as long as usual but that's probably all the AI shit that I tried to turn off. I only need a phone that does messaging, plays music, takes good pictures, has maps and a small fast web browser. Everything else is just useless fluff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Try the SIM 2 slot (eSIM) IMEI as well. I tried the first IMEI and it said my phone wasn't eligible but the second one was.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

They skirted around it on the official doc. They didn't explicitly say not all 6a devices are affected. They instead say if yours is affected, based on where you got it from and what are the laws in your area, you might be eligible for compensation or free repair.

It is entierly possible that hardware lottery is in play and some batts are feom a different supplyer. From what I gathered.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This really sucks. I bought a Pixel 7 for the ROMs, GrapheneOS to be specific, so this puts me in an awkward spot. Wish I could have myself a Fair Phone and a Framework laptop.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS is the most secure mobile OS and your model is not affected. I've got a 7a myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, according to Google, you could be. Link

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I've made a support request and chose the payout version rather than a free walk-in repair for my 7a. I will be contacted by an agent within three weeks. Probably have to revert to Google stock if I have to send it in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks, I wasn't aware. Need to check my device.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

This is about the 6a so you're not affected

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

That's a good combo.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It looks like I can go to a local repair shop to get the battery changed out. Anyone have experience with that option?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I've seen others get the battery replaced, but it heavily depends on the phone. Samsungs can be pretty cheap from what I hear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As long as the repair shop is reputable it's not too hard. I was looking at options on iFixit when I first heard this update was coming down the pipeline. I guess I am lucky that mine was already a refurbished unit when I bought it so it looks like the battery has already been replaced.

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Google+Pixel+6a+Battery+Replacement/152516

I replaced a few batteries myself before in a Nexus 6 and a Pixel 4a. The guides really help as does having the right tools. It's also helpful that iFixit offers genuine battery replacements.

https://www.ifixit.com/products/google-pixel-6a-battery-genuine?variant=39912699330663

Currently out of stock but that's probably due to this update that wrecked so many users battery life.