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We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Nobody wants to do that. North Korea is a shithole-class country that hates SK, is propped up by China, and to a lesser extent, Russia, who basically use them as slave labor and cannon fodder for their illegal war in Ukraine.

While NATO could easily steamroll NK, SK is right there and would get heavily damaged in a war. And then SK would probably have to take care of a ton of starving, brainwashed, uneducated people and a bombed flat country. Nobody wants to fix them, and superpowers like China are actively working against peaceful initiatives like reunification.

It's an injustice for the world, but there's much bigger fish to fry on the world stage right now. Existential, extinction-class threats like climate change and nuclear war. Democracies fighting tooth and nail against totalitarianism, like Ukraine. And western countries in various fights against the predictable but extremely annoying rise in fascism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh absolutely the west would love to effect regime change in North Korea. Morale win, keep the military industrial complex going, grow the economy, get rid of some pesky poors in combat, maybe hoover up some natural resources.

The problem is China, NK is strategically important to them as a source of said natural resources and as a buffer zone against South Korea. Plus lots of slave labour, global economies can never have enough of that.

So yeah, messing with North Korea means messing with China. Despite some real grade A morons in power nobody has been that stupid yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

We all see and hear what goes on over there

First, the ROK unfiltered propaganda on DPRK is as believable as Ukrainian propaganda. We all know "the pure unvarnished truth" as the complete trust in that propaganda.

The US's unjustified war on Korea was to overthrow a democratic unification election in which the less corrupt North party won. Ever since, an oligarchist duopoly has been propped up by the US, and standard of living is determined by the isolationism imposed by US/ROK alliance.

DPRK is aligned with winning future alliance, and ROK is being canibalized, like other colonies, by its master. DPRK has always been the stronger military side, by necessity, and the future is likely better for them. In your example, "why not do something about the US for actual verified first hand threats to citizens not cheering enough for Trump"?

[–] RedditRefugee69 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Holy hilarious nerve hitting, Batman. Superman is the American way/might that simplistically pretends to side with truth and justice.

[–] RedditRefugee69 1 points 1 hour ago

Strange Red Herring.

Care to talk about Chewbacca next?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

No one does anything, because it’s not actually that bad. Most of the quality of life issues are due to western imposed (illegal) sanctions, and not the authoritarian leadership.

You’re sensing the cognitive dissonance between western propaganda vs western actions. Keep going in that direction. You’re close to getting it. Most of what you’ve been told about North Korea is made up bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Could you please share source for better education about North Korea?

Edit: reworded the question

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You say without a speck of irony, as you post a well-known propaganda rag.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lol the guardian as a propaganda rag? The only people that complain about that are the fascists/right wing. So what would you consider a reliable reporting of the situation? I'm guessing only things that agree with your existing opinions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Everyone calls the guardian propaganda, outside of those advocating for very narrow pro-imperialist neoliberalism. So yeah, those opposing neoliberalism from both the left and right will obviously point out their agenda and inaccurate reporting.

They also openly coordinate with western intelligence agencies.

https://thegrayzone.com/tag/north-korea/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

There’s a novella by Ursula K Leguin called The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas wherein there is a utopian society that is able to exist because of the misery of one child who endures all of the hardship and sadness of the society. NK is that child for the world. They are kept like a specimen in a cabinet of curiosities warning everyone against communism, making the “free” in the West thankful for what modicum of freedom they’ve managed to preserve.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago

Short answer is that NK is pretty much self-contained. Occasional Kim might rattle his sabre but no one is too worried about it. Until they start making serious threats to the stability of other countries it's just a case of leave well enough alone.

Sure it sucks what the people of NK have to endure but it's not for other countries to tell them how they should live unless they directly ask for help or start threatening the sovereignty of other countries.

As someone else in the comments mentioned, WW2 wasn't an intervention to protect the German citizens that were being persecuted, it was a reaction to German invasion of other nations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Feel free to pitch the idea to congress. It will cost somewhere in the realm of trillions of dollars to invade, occupy, and rebuild North Korea. We're talking an occupation lasting decades. A full time military presence for the foreseeable future as North Korea rebuilds something resembling a functional democratic society.

Don't get me wrong, their military would get absolutely bodied in a full on shooting war with any sort of NATO-esque military coalition. But they have a sizable entrenched force with more than a few functional nuclear weapons. It would cost A LOT of lives.

So, that's the bill. If you think you can convince congress to go for it, go nuts.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

America was never about helping the people of the world. Many who believe that are mostly victims of propaganda. It’s all about American interests. If it’s in their interest they will give some reason like liberating a people as a pretence to enable military action.

Also to directly answer the question, they have nukes trained on Seoul, have the backing of China which considers it a buffer against western influenced south kr

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago

Because China doesn't want anyone to.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Jesus Fucking Christ. Stop trying to "liberate" other countries. Don't you understand what that entails? Rampant slaughter of civilians followed by propping up a colonial regime. How many times are you gonna try this shit before you learn? When has it ever worked?

At least DPRK minds it's own business. Imo, the country most in need of a war of liberation is the United States, which not only has a backwards, oppressive regime that's disappearing people off the streets, but also has been directly involved in multiple wars of conquest and aggression, and indirectly involved in more. Whatever you wish upon Korea, let it happen here, let's let China or someone bomb our cities and set up a government they like. Will you be greeting them as liberators? Not so fun when the shoe's on the other foot, is it?

Someday I hope y'all are able to see yourselves for the warmongers you are. I have no idea how liberals are able to convince of themselves as "peace-loving" while saying shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Liberal has nothing to do with peace loving, or pacifism, that's a right wing delusion they use to pump their courage before committing more atrocities on them. No different than 'God forgive me for what I'm about to do'.

Right wing revolutions end with the left in political prisons and slavery. Left wing revolutions end with the aristocrats/oligarchs, and their families, in the ground. It's really just a question of what flavor of violence is about to happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's more of a liberal delusion that they're "usually" antiwar, but the one that's happening now is always "different." Liberals are right-wing, and generally their (especially US) meddling with regime change ends up installing a fascist who kills or imprisons the left.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean sure, if you want to make up your own meaning for right wing, then go for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. Capitalism is right-wing. Leftism is defined by anti-capitalism.

In the UK, for example, the "Liberal Democrats" are right-leaning. It's primarily in the US that "liberal" and "leftist" are used interchangeably, because once there was no longer a substantial (self-indentifying) socialist presence to scaremonger about, the right started scaremongering about liberals by equating them to socialists, and the meaning stuck. But I reject that and stick by the original meanings, which are used internationally.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The nukes are recent, and probably not tactically functional. It's purely a cost benefit analysis. As long as NK isn't in serious motion to cause more damage outside their country, than it's worth to stop them, no one will.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah true. Like Turkmenistan. That country is like North Korea, but not in conflict with other countries. So no one cares.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Plus, they occasionally release pretty decent music

https://youtu.be/8PwHytpomC4?t=16m30s

[–] [email protected] 38 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

World powers typically let countries do whatever they want to their own citizens, it's only when they do stuff to people of other countries that they get involved.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago

More like when it threatens some status quo or be inconvenient for them to deal with or might cause a shift to some power dynamics.

I mean nobody(western leaders) gives a fuck about whatever is going on in Africa and Asia. And it's quite literally mindboggling how the shit in Urkaine and Palestine is still ongoing without any major consequences for the aggressors other than mayyyybe harsh words or hurrdurr sanctions. Soo..as long as it does negatively not impact then, world leaders don't give a shit about what other countries do.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Simple and to the point. WW2 didn't happen just because the Nazis were killing Jews, it happened because Hitler decided to barge into other countries.

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